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Transform Politics is the name of a new group looking to form a fresh left-wing party in the UK. It’s made up of individuals and pre-existing parties – and it’s launched its campaign with a flurry of interest on social media, as well as some criticism.

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[–] Oneeightnine@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The optimist in me would point to how much impact UKIP had on British politics without ever winning a seat....

However I'm not deluded enough to think these guys have anything as emotive as Brexit to push policy or even pressure the governing parties.

Still, if we ever get that sweet electoral reform I'd be happy to take another look.

[–] david@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

UKIP had impact way beyond their support because the Conservative Party will always prioritise retaining power over doing the right thing.

[–] Oneeightnine@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, there was absolutely a fracture inside the Tory party with regards to Europe. UKIP managed to widen that fracture and then Cameron gambled it all and, well here we are.

[–] TheHalc@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I don't think that really works unless you've got a strong wedge issue that can be used to threaten the main party.

I think you're absolutely right, we need electoral reform precisely so that more diverse views can be represented in government.

For now, though, the priority has to be ejecting the Tories.

[–] noodle@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

No left leaning party can do what UKIP did because UKIP threatened Labour as well as Tory seats. They were a single issue party and could run as MEPs which gave them another soapbox to shout from. There just isn't an issue that has the same kind of cross-partisan reach yet.

I think abolition of the monarchy will be that issue in 10-15 years time. Once the older Christian conservative voters die off there will be a stronger push to move to a republic. It's something that a single issue party could run on and steal votes from the dominant parties.