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‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says
(www.theguardian.com)
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Copyright can be a double edged sword, but...
... You've identified the chilling effect it's designed to prevent: namely, telling people that they don't matter in the scope of creation.
There's a great video about how plaigirism dehumanizes, and if you've got a couple minutes I'd recommend it.
I think it's pretty amazing when people just run with the dogma that empowers billionaires.
Every creator hopes they'll be the next taylor swift and that they'll retain control of their art for those life + 70 years and make enough to create their own little dynasty.
The reality is that long duration copyright is almost exclusively a tool of the already wealthy, not a tool for the not-yet-wealthy. As technology improves it will be easier and easier for wealth to control the system and deny the little guy's copyright on grounds that you used something from their vast portfolio of copyright/patent/trademark/ipmonopolyrulelegalbullshit. Already civil legal disputes are largely a function of who has the most money.
I don't have the solution that helps artists earn a living, but it doesn't seem like copyright is doing them many favors as-is unless they are retired rockstars who have already earned in excess of the typical middle class lifetime earnings by the time they hit 35, or way earlier.
Just because copyright helps them less doesn't mean it doesn't help them at all. And at the end of the day, I'd prefer to support the retired rockstars over the stealing billionaires.
Yeah and Joseph Stalin was a bit naughty. As long as we are seeing how understated we can be.
The creator of Superman wasnt paid royalties and was laid off. Many years later he worked a restaurant delivery guy and ended up dropping off food at DC comics. The artist that built that company doing a sandwich run.
Oh, is this the future time? I was thinking that you could air your concerns in a different thread entirely, perhaps in a subreddit devoted to it. There has been a suspicious number of people suddenly concerned about copyright and other things but only when AI is discussed.
If you got an accusation go ahead and make it. I will be hearing downloading a fucking car
Relax, I would never be so grimy as to accuse you of something. I wish you well with your legitimate interests, and I hope you can find threads where they actually are on topic!
I am on topic. Our copyright system is flamming garbage and this is a money grab. Everyone is sitting here getting all worked up about who the criminal is and I am asking who the victim is.
Tell me the name of the artist whose career was ruined by AI copying their original art work. I am not impressed by J.K. "billionaire terf" Rowling POTENTIALLY not making another half million. If you can't produce a victim then there is no crime.
I was going to find a link, but it looks like other people already have.
Wouldn't know. I don't click random links. If you have an argument make it.
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Them: "Oh yeah I have 10 minutes until my dentist appointment, I'll check that out."
First:
I truly believe that they don't matter as an individual when looking at their creation as a whole. It matters among their loved ones, and for that person itself. Why do you need more... importance? From who? Why do you need to matter in scope of creation? Is it a creation for you? Then why publish it? Is it a creation for others? Then why does your identity matter? It just seems like egotism with extra steps. Using copyright to combat this seems like a red herring argument made by people who have portfolio's against people who don't..
You are not only your own person, you carry human culture remnants distilled out of 12000 years of humanity! You plagiarised almost the whole of humanity while creating your 'unique' addition to culture. But, because your remixed work is newer and not directly traceable to its direct origins, we're gonna pretend that you wrote it as a hermit living without humanity on a rock and establish the rules from there on out. If it was fair for all the players in this game, it would already be impossible to not plagiarise.
Funny thing is, human artists work quite similar to AI, in that they take the whole of human art creation, build on ot and create something new (sometimes quite derivative). No art comes out of a vacuum, it builds on previous works. I would not really say AI plagiarizes anything, unless it reproduced pretty much the exact work of someone