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Japan determines copyright doesn't apply to LLM/ML training data (infosec.town)
submitted 1 year ago by ericjmorey@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/8121669

Taggart (@mttaggart) writes:

Japan determines copyright doesn't apply to LLM/ML training data.

On a global scale, Japan’s move adds a twist to the regulation debate. Current discussions have focused on a “rogue nation” scenario where a less developed country might disregard a global framework to gain an advantage. But with Japan, we see a different dynamic. The world’s third-largest economy is saying it won’t hinder AI research and development. Plus, it’s prepared to leverage this new technology to compete directly with the West.

I am going to live in the sea.

www.biia.com/japan-goes-all-in-copyright-doesnt-apply-to-ai-training/

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Painting and selling an exact copy of a recent work, such as Banksy, is a crime.

… however making an exact copy of Banksy for personal use, or to learn, or to teach other people, or copying the style… that’s all perfectly legal.

And that was the bait and switch of OpenAI! They sold themselves as being a non-profit simply doing research, for which it would be perfectly legal to consume and reproduce large quantities of data... And then, once they had the data, they started selling access to it.

I would say that that alone, along with the fact that they function as gatekeepers to the technology (One does not simply purchase the model from OpenAI, after all) they are hardly free of culpability... But it definitely depends on the person trying to use their black box too.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Huh? What does being non profit have to do with it? Private companies are allowed to learn from copyrighted work. Microsoft and Apple, for example, look at each other's software and copy ideas (not code, just ideas) all the time. The fact Linux is non-profit doesn't give them any additional rights or protection.

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're not gatekeeping llms though, there are publicly available models and data sets.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If it's publicly available, why didn't Microsoft just download and use it rather than paying them for a partnership?
(And where at?)

IIRC they only open-sourced some old stuff.

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Stability diffusion is open source. You can run local instances with provided and free training sets to query against and generate your own outputs.

https://stability.ai/