Again: because there's more PEOPLE than there has ever been. Yes, there is more suffering. I have no idea what you expect, the political climate is such that we can't just eradicate their suffering. But to pretend like these policies are a failure is going to cause more suffering. How do you not see that?

That 20% is the number that aren't suffering because of these policies. If you were to remove them, that 20% is the added suffering you are causing.

Is it perfect? Absolutely not.

Have they accomplished everything they set out to? Absolutely not.

Are they failing? Absolutely not.

I mean, what is an acceptable number of people living in poverty to you and when are there too many? Is it a percentage? Or is it a real number of real people?

See, in my world, percentages are real numbers of real people. I know, that's crazy. And I'm not going to pretend like there's some number that's acceptable, or enough, because that's not the point. The point is that the policies we're discussing have reduced the suffering.

You calling them a lie can only lead to more suffering. Hopefully you realize that some day.