2051
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2023
2051 points (93.6% liked)
Fuck Cars
9582 readers
428 users here now
A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!
Rules
1. Be Civil
You may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.
2. No hate speech
Don't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.
3. Don't harass people
Don't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.
4. Stay on topic
This community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.
5. No reposts
Do not repost content that has already been posted in this community.
Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.
Posting Guidelines
In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:
- [meta] for discussions/suggestions about this community itself
- [article] for news articles
- [blog] for any blog-style content
- [video] for video resources
- [academic] for academic studies and sources
- [discussion] for text post questions, rants, and/or discussions
- [meme] for memes
- [image] for any non-meme images
- [misc] for anything that doesn’t fall cleanly into any of the other categories
Recommended communities:
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
People associated "freedom to go anywhere" with cars but it's a disguised argument. For the most part it's about not traveling with others. To a degree it's also about status symbol but for the most part they want to be alone and dictate their own schedule. If they really cared about freedom to move wherever they would get offroad motorcycles and never need to pay for parking again.
That's a very narrow view of things.
There are plenty if trains and buses where I'm from, and they still don't cover enough land area, let alone come along often enough and go largely in the direction I need to go to be useful.
Cars are about freedom and convenience. Being anti social is a secondary choice, and a perk.
No they are not. Public transport always needs improving, but getting to close where you need to be is always possible. Cycling after that or using some other sort of transport is possible. Even if you do want to ride your own vehicle to desired location, motorcycles are always better than cars. Even more convenient since you can filter through traffic jams, don't need parking spaces and spend less fuel.
Public Transport takes twice as long to get anywhere for me (and I live fairly close to both trains and buses), and motorcycles are way more dangerous, and can't really carry anything except yourself. Cars are a happy medium between the two, which is why people use them.
Motorcycles are "way more dangerous" if you drive them that way. Falling off of bicycle, motorcycle or a scooter at 30km/h is the same, with added benefit of wearing a helmet. If you ride it at 200km/h, then there's little to increase survivability. There's a reason why speed limits are in place. Sure they are still riskier than armored boxes in which you sit, but they don't have to be. Also if you really care about safety you'd switch to trains and busses which are significantly more safe than cars.