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[-] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also it’s good to know that Donbas was Russian for centuries. To bad Lenin’s terrible decision can’t be changed on a dime, because that’s not how international law works.

Lenin wanted self-determination of Ukraine, respecting that Donbass is 90% Russian and them wanting to secede and being stopped by nazi-death azov miltias with western bombs was what started this whole mess. The Donbas war is directly linked to the repression of LGBT+ people, you misunderstand the propoganda and rhetoric going on involved with this war.

Why do you think Zelensky, the president of a country that untill very recently banned LGBT+ people from existance was dressing in drag while Ukraine was bombing the donbass? Why do you think they apparently legalized gay marriage, yet have nazi battalions beating up and bombing lgbt+ meetings still? They want to spur a reaction in Russia, because in turn it poisons the well for western support like it clearly has done for you and others in this thread.

None of the concessions Ukraine made to LGBT+ comrades has been sincere, and it has been at the knowing expense of LGBT+ comrades in both Ukraine and Russia, the only way to even begin to undo this damage is to advocate for a ceasefire and normalization of conditions in the area.

Im happy to back up any of the claims I made with sources, they are not hyperbole.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 11 months ago

How does Ukraine’s disgusting wrongs make this correct?

The topic of the Donbas is entirely irreverent here. How does that affect or justify Russia's domestic policies?

[-] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How is anything that i've said a justification for any of this?

I clearly do not support Russias stance on this, the war has to end for it to change; you cannot just ignore the biggest infulence on there attitudes, the war from this equation.

edit: re: first question

Because ukraines disgusting wrongs created this reactionary wave against the people with nazi flags bombing people they are related too, eastern ukraine is 90% ethnic russian; Ukrainian media adpoted pink capitalism as a facade while they bombed them, they have weaponized it and you blame the targets of the weapon for responding in reaction to the images and percieved ideas of the people who kill them.

My answer is that the fastest route towards lgbt+ liberation in russia still needs to be the war ending firstly.

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