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Israel revises Hamas attack death toll to 'around 1,200'
(www.reuters.com)
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You understand what you're saying right.
This was a big media press conference, and the presenter. The presenter, was Dr. Chen Kugel. This was a slide on his own presentation. Do you understand?
Boom:
https://youtu.be/SoTItPHa6mw?si=zPYvRhDoj1D-nwSB
Video of the actual press conference.
Please relent, it's giving me a headache.
He does address all the scans, the metal wire in the photo, right there, direct quotes from him too I should have led with this. Around minute 6 is when the images posted come up.
Please watch the video, please please I feel like I'm going insane. I should have led with it but I didn't know there was video of the whole press conference.
Thank you for finding the video. I wish the articles we have been referencing would have just linked to it. That said, the video does not substantiate the article from The Media Line.
Regarding the charred bodies, Dr. Kugel is clear that they were not directly set on fire. At about 24:24 he states that the bodies were in buildings that burned. Subsequently, he clarifies that carbon monoxide inhalation would have killed them before the fire itself, that they did not burn alive, as a small consolation to the surviving loved ones.
As for the steel wire, it is mentioned twice in the video:
At about 7:41, Dr. Kugel says that one of his colleagues "thinks" that an adult and child shown in one of the CT scans "might" have been bound together with steel wire and then burned. That is speculation, of course. I would speculate differently, but I think that would be an unnecessary digression.
At about 11:12, an unburned, or at least un-charred, body of an adult male is explained as having been "cuffed" with steel wire and then shot to death. Unlike the scan of the adult and child, a photograph of the steel wire from this case is actually presented.
So, from this press conference we have a confirmed case of steel wire being used to restrain a victim and multiple victims of arson. These findings are sad and horrifying, but, based on the facts we have, the allegation that people were ritualistically strapped together and burned alive (with the implication that it was a typical feature of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood), is not true. We need to be careful about fabrications and exaggerations for the reasons I mentioned previously.
At this point, I have also had enough of this discussion. It is an unpleasant topic and you have helped me get a better understanding for the basis and validity of the claim, which is what I originally sought.