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Sway is a Wayland i3 implementation and you really should be using Wayland instead of X.
I would love to but 1. I love my simple awesomeWM setup 2. Nvidia shenanigans.
:(
i know that feel bro :(
Is Sway nice?
Sway is rice
Yes
I might be swayed to try it out
The Sway implementation (not Wayland as some DEs seem to run really smoothly) sadly is still completely hit or miss depending on your exact hardware setup. I have two device (both even with nvidia grphics *sigh*) and one of them is just a buggy and flickering mess.
Sway devs don't support NVIDIA graphics
I know they officially don't. And I didn't try to say that Sway was bad in any way or that it is their fault. I was just stating facts about state of it with NVIDIA graphics (that kept me -as a long-term i3 user- from switching to Wayland).
I disagree. Sway is extremely high quality software. Nvidia is a known terrible player with FLOSS software. I hope they will continue their path of recent improvements.
No, you only should be using Wayland if you need some of it's features. If you don't need mixed refresh rate/mixed scaling you're fine using X.
X is abandonware and full of security issues probably time to switch to maintained aoftware
This sentence works really well for twitter too
This is FUD. Here's a security fix from a month ago: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/commit/541ab2ecd41d4d8689e71855d93e492bc554719a
Abandonware my ass...
Sure, activity in the repo and new versions don't prove the project isn't abandoned... Maybe you just don't know what abandonwere means?
No one stops you from moving to Wayland. It has it's uses. But the FUD you're spreading is stupid and boring. X is fine, it's exactly what a lot of people need and it doesn't make sense to move their DEs to Wayland only because it's 'new'. The fact that it took Wayland 10 years to reach any sort of usability shows just how little does it offer to an average user.
X' architecture is insecure. There's no isolation between windows, and each process can spy on your input. That's just one example.
Wayland is necessary.
Yet no known active exploits use this insecure architecture to cause actual harm. It's just another FUD.
I'd hardly call that an exploit. There's no protection.
For a while I would have agreed, and I used sway for years. But recently I switched back to i3 (i3-rounded) due to display issues with my AMD GPU. I started doing most of my development in the TTY, and found that switching from TTY to Wayland takes half a second and can sometimes break my GPU (until I switch between TTY and display a few times). With X11 it's instant and without issue ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Hoping that gets fixed down the road, or that it's specific to my GPU.