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No, nature is out of balance because we are pulling carbon deep out of the Earth and emitting it into the atmosphere.
No number of cows is going to cause an imbalance in the carbon cycle, because it doesn't matter how many cows you have, they must be fed by carbon pulled out of the atmosphere.
@bioemerl @usernamesAreTricky @blazera wrong. The more cows releasing gas, the more saturated becomes the atmosphere. One thing is the carbon they eat and a very different story is capturing it back, or do you think the carbon problem from the oil industry is happening just because we drill the oil out?
I'm having a hard time even understanding your sentences at this point.
All carbon from cows comes from plants, and all carbon in plants comes from the atmosphere.
The problem with fossil fuels is because we are drilling and pumping the carbon out of the deep Earth and then emitting it into the atmosphere as a byproduct undoing hundreds of thousands of years of sequestration in just a few short decades.
@bioemerl @usernamesAreTricky @blazera a couple of cars won't make a difference, billions of cars do. Just like cows. No wonder why you are having a hard time understanding
Cows don't run on fossil fuel that have been in the ground for millions of years. Cars do.
@bioemerl @usernamesAreTricky @blazera picture this. You have a glass of water and a spoon of salt. The water has a concentration of ions, when you pour the salt in it you move the balance to a higher concentration of salt. Basically you have an atmosphere with X concentration of CO² and lets say a population of a billion cows and a billion trees. What happens if you double the amount of cows and half the amount of trees? Do you think the CO² concentration remains unchanged?
Relatively little. Trees aren't actually a huge carbon sink.
@bioemerl @usernamesAreTricky @blazera they are during active growth. Also my example was only to illustrate how the balance tilts, and even if you keep on denial, cows methane emissions can be measured, and are a huge contributor to greenhouse gas emissions.