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[–] tottle@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Aren't we officially already fully metric?

[–] potatomuncher@lemmy.ca 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

So is the US.

But we use imperial on things sold to the US.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You don't buy much lumber I guess.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

2x4 is just a name/label now. They haven't been those inch dimensions in a very long time.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's not a shrinkflation thing, that's a nominal vs. finished size. A 2x4 has been 1.5x3.5 since planed lumber has been a thing, well over a century. You can still buy roughcut 2x6 that are really 2"x6".

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Did you see the picture. Original 2x4 was 2inch x 4inch. Then there was the planing in the middle, then the even smaller planing.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yes. And I'm explaining for anyone thinking this picture represents some sort of reality of the enshittification of finished lumber that nominal is not finished and graded size and hasn't been since 1919.

The 2x4 (rough) has had a finished size of 1.5x3.5 for well over a century, there was a very brief time it was standardized at 1-5/8x 3-5/8 but that was a pain in the ass for carpenters and mills. You can still buy unplaned lumber that is the full 2x4 or 2x6 dimensions, but it's ungraded and not suitable for anything but fences. It will not pass a building inspection.

This picture isn't saying anything useful.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It may not be 2" by 4" but go try to buy a 38mm by 89mm

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago

That's what I mean, it has become a label, rather than a size. Like how a #10 drill bit is 0.19"

[–] TheSecondVariety@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I believe so, but this guy wants to go after everything else like getting trades to use it and make metric the default setting on electronics.

IDK if thats the best plan or if he realizes what an uphill battle certain things might be. Like ovens; our oven somehow switched over to metric on thanksgiving and it totally messed me up, I spent a LOT of time figuring out how to change that back to F. Another issue is industries that just aren't going to want to change: aviation, boats I think are imperial, railways are, home building, etc.