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PHP Foundation 'under-funded' with one full-time staff member, director says (www.reuters.com)
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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

That number is a bit questionable:

  • It only includes sites where the server-side language can be detected. That's often easy with PHP because of URLs ending in .php and well-known software like Wordpress which identifies itself in ways that are easy for a crawler to detect.
  • It counts sites, not traffic. There are a lot of Wordpress sites out there which get three visitors a month.
[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 7 points 10 hours ago

and well-known software like Wordpress

Sorry, but you're using the fact that PHP is used by the framework that makes up about 40% of the web on its own as an argument against the claim that PHP might be on as much as 70% of all websites? That's before you start getting into other platforms like Drupal and MediaWiki, or more general-purpose frameworks like Laravel.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 9 points 12 hours ago

It only includes sites where the server-side language can be detected. That's often easy with PHP because of URLs ending in .php and well-known software like Wordpress which identifies itself in ways that are easy for a crawler to detect.

So there are possibly more PHP sites out there than we realize, because the ones which disguise their URLs are ambiguous

It counts sites, not traffic. There are a lot of Wordpress sites out there which get three visitors a month.

You shouldn’t be as concerned with popularity, and much more concerned with attack surface. Your argument certainly can’t be that there are thousands of idle servers out there that should no longer be maintained because no one reads the blog hosted on them?

[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Wordpress is still commonly used for e-commerce. You’re probably visiting more PHP sites than you realize.