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Statistic on the news said that 50% of the population there are under 18...

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[–] kglitch@kglitch.social 85 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children)

Egypt already has 12 million homeless people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_homeless_population

1.2 out of 10 people in Egypt is homeless.

Jordan, with a population of 11 million people, already has 2.1 million Palestinian refugees and 1.4 million Syrian refugees.

Those countries are in no position to help.

Look elsewhere for solutions.

[–] 4L3moNemo@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

I have a question. How many homeless people do we need to build a house, taken that stones, clay and sticks are available (or provided)? People once build pyramids there. World is anyway supporting them with food and a means to live – can't the leadership be provided too (if they can't organize themselves)? Can't able to work build the houses for themselves and others? What do they do all day?

P.S. and I understand than not everybody can work, some have health issues - but hey, we are talking about 12milion, sure there are atleast 120k able to work persons in that crowd, who could work for 2 hours per day each.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

So you want to make a scrap material slum? With no infrastructure like running water or sewage?

[–] 4L3moNemo@programming.dev -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

And whats wrong in building infrastructure by themselves? Diging up watter, clay, making whatever things civilization done thousands years? Other (e.g. north countries) people do it even then they have to grow their own food, fight the cold and bad seasons in parallel. Here we have all food, minimum shelter from elements and even medicine already provided. And yet, where is the progress? Whats wrong in that whole support process then?

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You think you could build a functioning, sanitary sewer without any training or education

[–] uncertainty@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago

If you can get people to leave the pile alone long enough, composting is safe and yields a useful end product https://humanurehandbook.com/

[–] 4L3moNemo@programming.dev -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You think you can read, I thought you could. ;) Because I specifically mentioned quot: taken than the leadership is provided ...

and that implies all kinds of leadership. Helping to organize, management, help of qualified engineers, consultations and their services, overseers in the field, and/or training specialists. It's not that it is a rocket science, and we are not talking about skyscrapers. Any body can be a builder after some explaining, if we are talking about single store simple hause with running watter, sewer. And anybody can dig and lay pipes. Hell, they already had ramp, lever, clay brics, stone blocs, ropes, paper, maths, and even a wheel there, more than a 5 thousand years ago. More than 2 thousands years ago they already had there a water wheel, pipes and other water technologies. It is not that a rocket science is needed to develop the enviroment. It can be needed if we want to do it fast, labour and economicaly efective, but that is not a case here. We are talking about supported people – it's not that they use their time efectively now or will lose something by taking two hours per day to improve their enviroment themselves.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Was your mother an alcoholic?

[–] 4L3moNemo@programming.dev -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you imply all theirs mothers were?

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If they gave me a wall of barely coherent nonsense like that, then maybe I would

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