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submitted 11 months ago by M500@lemmy.ml to c/pokemon@lemmy.ml

I have played most Pokemon games, but I am deciding between Pokemon Sun/Moon/Ultra and Brilliant Diamond.

I have never played either of these games not even their original versions. What do you think?

Additionally, is Sun/Moon good or is the Ultra version better?

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[-] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago

Don't play Brilliant Diamond, play Platinum instead, it's much better in every single way.

You can use an emulator to get it up and running quickly.

As far as Sun vs Ultra Sun, I think most people prefer the original but I've never played them.

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Can you tell me why platinum is better? I’m genuinely clueless.

[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

BDSP was a terrible remake that was farmed out to a random porting studio. It's one of the lowest effort remakes I have ever experienced.

One of the biggest issues is BDSP added modern EXP share where all your pokemon gain EXP every battle.This caused a huge problem for BDSP because they didn't re-balance the game to account for you gaining much more XP than the original developers expected. The game is completely trivial because you become unreasonably over-leveled when playing through the game normally.

Platinum also added extra content to gen 4 beyond the original Diamond and Perl. None of this content was added to the remaster. If you are wanting to play gen IV and have hardware that can run it, Platinum is the best choice.

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Thanks! One of my complaints about Pokémon is that it’s too easy. That alone will push me to platinum.

[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

BDSP are 1:1 Unity remakes of diamond and pearl, for better or worse. Platinum just had some small quality of life upgrades and both the legendaries.

Also, BDSP aren't made by Pokemon Company, I enjoyed the games but artistically it's just not Pokemon. If you told me BDSP was a fan game, I'd believe you. It's cool to see a 3d chibi take of Pokemon but I love the art direction of the DS games far more.

[-] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

Platinum had a lot more than small upgrades, it's just easy to forget how much of gen 4 comes from platinum.

[-] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Platinum came out a year after Diamond and Pearl, it made a lot of changes to the games. From the top of my head these are the most important ones:

  • Expanded Pokedex from 151 to 210 or so pokemon.
  • Revamped team galactic, changes their bases' looks and adding tons of dialogue.
  • Gym leaders, galatic leaders and elite four have improved teams due to the added pokemon.
  • Improved sprites although this doesn't really matter at this point.
  • Added trainers that follow you and turn areas into pure double battles for a while.
  • Improved the big showdown with team galatic and gave Giratina a role in the story.
[-] M500@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks! You have convinced me to play platinum over the switch releases.

[-] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago
[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

I've consistently heard that the gameplay fixes of Ultra make the game objectively better, however they make some weird ass story changes that ruin the story of a very dialogue heavy game.

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