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And is it social progress to you for a society to allow gay people to have civil rights?
social progress is relative to the social goals.
for a western society? yeah, for non-western societies? no.
the problem is everyone assumes 'society' must believe in the western ideals of individualistic freedom. there is no reason it must or should.
plenty of people have ideals that are not about freedom, they are about control. for those folks, gay civil rights are anti-progress.
“Local leftist decides that gay people shouldn’t have human rights because gay human rights don’t comport with the social progress related to non-western societies” is my favorite example of horseshoe theory in action. Please never break containment.
Nah, according to lemmy politics I'm right wing nazi who wants to kill/convert all gay people. because I read the harry potter books 10 years ago. You got it wrong.
but please feel free to mischaracterize everything I said however it makes you feel most morally superior? you got that part right.
your inability to see the world from other perspectives than your own personal one is your problem, not mine. one of the core beliefs of identity politics is that this isn't possible at all, which is why people who believe in it literally can't comprehend anyone else who is different than them culturally or socially as anything other than evil. because their tribe is the only good people in all of the world.