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Guns don't kill people is a ridiculous argument that no one believes, but people who like guns fall back on as a last refuge, and it is good enough to dig your heals in, so they can keep their toys. Also the 2nd amendment is the real reason gun control is hard, not arguments.
The difference is there are a lot more gun owners than AI supporters, so unbelievable arguments don't really work when you don't have a population primed to ignore the obvious fallacies.
Over 99.9% of gun owners do so responsibly, without hurting anyone or breaking any laws. To tell 99.9% of people they're not allowed to do something becasue less than 0.1% of people abused their right to it, should be a very concerning idea to anyone who claims to live in a free society.
If it was a simple matter of availability, then other countries with just high and higher rates of gun ownership as the US would see the same violence problems. But, that isn't the case, those countries don't have the same problems as the US.
All bans do is make people feel better about "solving" a problem without committing real time, money, and effort to an actual solution. I don't want to see another gun ban because I'd rather see something happen that will actually reduce instances of gun violence.
A problem with gun violence isn't a problem with guns, it's a problem with violence. Treat the underlying issues of violence: poverty, unemployment, homelessness, drug addiction, and mental health, and the problem will be solved.
What countries have high gun ownership like the US and lower gun violence? And key point, are the same guns common is mass casualty events like Columbine (tec-9), Vegas (AR-15, AR-10 with bumb-stocks) allowed in those countries?
If we are comparing counties to the US, the most obvious one would be Canada. But, I am super curious about the other countries that prove guns don't kill people.
Switzerland kind of proves the point that guns don't kill people, Americans do!
Switzerland has tec-9's, AR-15's, AR-10's, high capacity magazines, and bumpstocks right? Or do they have reasonable gun control? I don't even need to look this up...it is obvious.
I'm just going to agree with you that the US would be way better off with Switzerland's quite reasonable gun laws. Permits required for everything that is basically not a bolt action or break action hunting rifles. That is great. That is probably why they have 1/4th the number of guns per capita as in the US, and I am willing to bet most those guns only hold one or two rounds) and not 9+.
Citation very much needed on the 99.9% number. Pretty sure suicides already break it.
It's the type of guns people are allowed to own. They are absurd.
You kinda make my point that you only need .0001% of a population to kill hundreds kids...and that is only posible with this fun toy, otherwise hundreds of people would be alive.
You would rather us search for the needle in the hey stack then take away high capacity magazines or bumb stocks which a small fraction of gun owner actually own.