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True, but big trucks don’t need to be in city centers or in areas that are pedestrianized in the first place. They should be completely separate specifically for that reason yeah?
Are fewer commercial vehicles that only enter pedestrianized areas at low times good? Sure. But that may not be realistic, depending on the size and logistical needs of the pedestrianized zone. When there are commercial trucks in the city, they need priority so they can get out as unobtrusivly as possible.
Genuine question: Why can’t the trucks be smaller? Like in pedestrianized areas where we live all the shops are small and the delivery truck are just delivery vans. Would be a more realistic approach and a semi truck. Could even further utilize the freight station or local harbor as distribution centers. Don’t think trucks are realistically the answer
The smaller the truck is, the more trucks and distribution warehouses you need.
1 semi and a forklift can move 26×2×2 pallets. A van might hold 1 if it has the suspension, a kei truck 1-6.
Different areas have different logistics needs and resources.
True, but like we’ve worked in retail multiple times in usa and the trucks were usually like half filled or not well put together even though they were semi trucks it felt wasteful all the time (and this was direct from warehouse to our stores)
Here in Spain, it’s just small delivery vans or compact trucks, but they only go to huge chains, the small grocery store down stairs only have a normal van. Once you have priority of walking, the stores are usually way smaller and closer together so you don’t need large trucks
The amount of stuff transported is largely a function of population density; if you have 10 groceries serving 50000 vs 100 groceries serving 50000 people, you're not reducing the amount of stuff that needs to be transported.
So the traffic effects get worse the more dispersed the warehouses are as they spend more time on the road driving longer distances and the smaller the average capacity of the vehicles.
You wouldn't want 1 warehouse at the edge of a city of >1 million unleashing a flood of vans ir cargobikes on the city.
Yeah ig so, but we also don’t have semi trucks all over our city for grocery shops, usually small trucks, vans or bikes. So not sure how it works here fully ig? Only one place here that we know for sure uses semi trucks is the mall.
We’re not sure what the best solution would be personally, but even here semi trucks give way to pedestrians where pedestrians are. So possibly have areas where pedestrians can’t be (like normal roads and stuff). Though admittedly never thought of this extensively so next time we’re working on our fantasy cities for D&D or comic week have to keep it in mind and study up on efficient ways to do retail deliveries! :3