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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

yes, but it's systematically undervalued because stupid people don't understand how powerful soft skills are and think all that matter is hard skills.

but statistically most liberal art grads do very well later in life, even if they don't make as much starting out.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

that’s because only rich people can waste their time on a degree like that

give stats for success rates account for low starting wealth

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

what is 'success'? starting salary, or mid-career, or late career?

regardless of what you major in, or your job skills you have, the biggest predictor of success is your parents wealth. no major, no college, nothing can overcome that element.

the poor kids with STEM degrees are the ones slinging coffee, not the rich ones. because they don't have the social connections, and the unpaid internships and the social skills to get them hired by all the hiring managers who are upper middle class people whose primary concern in hiring is social fit above all else. brogrammers only hire other brogrammers. woke brogrammers, only higher other woke brogrammers, etc. and poor college kids have no idea what any of that shit is because they are worrying about their food budget and their summer job slinging ice cream will be enough to cover next semesters books and fees.

frankly, I've never met a STEM person who wasn't from a upper middle class family, though a lot of them tell you they are 'poor' because their dad own drove a Lexus, not a Mercedes. Everyone I knew who went into STEM was way richer than my family. and they are totally convinced though their grew up in rags because they shopped at Abercomrbie and not Vineyard vines. And if I say 'hey well i grew up shopping at TJ Maxx' they tell me to go fuck myself for being a poor piece of shit.

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My mom did well but was modest and didn't have a huge house and never spent money on things we didn't need. She was frugal with spending and showed how to stack coupons. We used to get 500$ worth of clothes for like 180$.

Tj Maxx and Marshall's were my shit!!!! You could find the coolest stuff on the clearance rack.

I didn't grow up super poor but we didn't live like stereotypical rich people either.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago

https://www.hamiltonproject.org/publication/post/major-decisions-what-graduates-earn-over-their-lifetimes/

  • For the median bachelor’s degree graduate, cumulative lifetime earnings for workers across majors range from $770,000 (early childhood education) to $2.28 million (aerospace engineering). This is a slightly larger range than in the original analysis, driven by gains in aerospace engineering.
  • It is still true that majors that emphasize quantitative reasoning tend to have graduates with the highest lifetime earnings. The five highest-earning majors (at the median) are all in engineering fields: aerospace, followed by energy and extraction, chemical and biological, computer, and electrical.
[–] partition2185@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's because people who can risk pursuing a liberal arts degree are already well off

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

they aren't. but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel superior.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Like half of the stem majors are foreign born rich kids. Just look at the tuition charged.

[–] partition2185@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Only TE majors actually get paid well. Life Science degrees may as well be liberal arts.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

yeah but they are majoring in STEM so they are automatically hard working and good people or something.

and lets not... acknowledge how many people in STEM... have liberal arts degrees... which is a lot.

[–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Who cares, let them sleep on the value of the degree. ;)