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You genuinely have no real grasp on the world we live in. Yeah, at this point in time, that is idealism. We get there the same way we got here, one bite at a time. You don’t change the programming of society in a blink without destroying the system entirely, and even then it’s still not how it works, there is nothing everyone universally agrees on and there never will be. Life, as they say, is a series of compromises. There is an inoperable lack of societal awareness and pragmatism to your ethos.
Those who learn history are doomed to watch thise that don’t repeat it, as they say.
So the Democrats can't just stop bombing kids, or torturing people, or supporting Trump because "there is nothing everyone universally agrees on and there never will be."?
"We gotta keep the child-murder machine going because waves hand at vague, abstract concepts that don't actually mean anything, and has no supporting evidence. You just don't know how to compromise with the child-murder machine that never compromises back. It's idealism to think that we can do anything about that. Even when we have all the power."
Yes, exactly. Progress is carved slowly with a dull knife, it refuses to be done any other way. Again, that’s how they got us here and it’s the only way out. That’s just how things work, no matter how hard you want to keep slamming your head into that wall. It’s not that I advocate for it, it’s just how things are. You can work to change things one at a time or you can get crushed by it. Realty doesn’t consider your ideals or morality.
Well, no, that's now how it is. We could just stop bombing kids. I've gone my whole life without directly bombing anyone, and it's been pretty easy to do. In fact, it seems to me that it's a lot of work to bomb kids. Same with torturing people, same with supporting rapists.
The fact that you think it's hard to not bomb kids tells me a lot about your lack of understanding about how the world works.
But you are advocating for that. You keep fighting against the people who are trying to stop it from happening.
Or there's another option that you keep refusing to consider: The Democrats could just say "Nah, we aren't going to bomb kids", and then actually stop.
See, it's really easy to do. I'm doing it right now!
You leveling all of your anger and blame on me is nothing short of childish, be mad at the powers and systems in control, that’s what is resisting change and bombing children, I’m 100% on board with all the shit you’re saying. I’ve also mever bombed children. You’re being a hyperbolic kneejerk reactionary looking for an easy out and someone, anyone it would seem, to take all the blame. THAT IS SIMPLY NOT HOW THE WORLD WORKS. The picture is so much bigger than what you are painting it to be. Be more pragmatic. There is no quick or easy way out.
I keep saying "lets not bomb kids", but you keep defending it, and the people who do it. If you are against it, why would you support them and the bombs they drop? Your the one saying "bombing kids is just practical for now".
Where did I defend it?
Have you not been defending the Democrats this whole time? Because I thought that was your point?
No, I hate them all. I’m saying be realistic about getting to where things can be better. We are in a long suppressed socio political environment that has gulped up and internalized a lot of propaganda. We’re not getting out of this all at once or any time soon, we need to get every bit we can and not complain that there is a whale to be eaten and nobody that is willing nor able to eat the whale in one bite, especially when the only other realistic outcome is just more whales.