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"Or maybe it's meant to be "Although i am hated by birds, I rather enjoy that". The provided translations don't make much sense to me. Neither one really works with what is actually written. But my German is very bad and the provided translations would be provided by actual German speakers.

This one was likely made for "Hussar tournaments", which were a tradition of the HRE primarily under Ferdinand II where contestants jousted dressed as either Hussars or Turk.

Between bouts one wpuld change out their visor for either a "Turkish" visor, or a "Christian" visor. The visors looked like... uhhh

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[–] Keld@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It says WIE•WOL•ICH•BIN•DER•VOGEL•HAS•NOCH•DEN•ERFRET•MICH•DAS according to the article https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/26884

[–] phr@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

ty! wasn't familiar enough with the script to not be confused. ~1500 is not my forte. :(

it says pretty much what you got there. but i could give some explanations? "wie wol" is still around today as "wiewohl", but pretty archaic. "der vogel has" is a pretty old construction. i'd translate it as "the hate(object) of the birds". "den" is aequivalent to "dann" in modern german (or in northern german often "denn"), not the article "den". "erfrēt" is "erfreut" in the modern standard. "wie wol … noch den …" is just "even though … still …"

i don't like "the hated bird" bc it doesn't say by whom. i would read that as "hated by the birds", hen again i might be projectin earlier stages of german into that.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I got the erfreut thing, although admittedly just because it was the closest word I knew. Den works because den is still den in other languages.

For the rest I am listening, I am learning, I am remembering why I didn't take German in high school.

[–] phr@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago

texts that are 500 years old aren't the friendliest to a modern reader usually, high school educated or not. actually good job trying to make sense of it.:)

just one addition "noch den", odd as it is, lives on in the modern "dennoch". which i didn't see until just now.