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We need a list of products we can buy without worrying about telemetry or advertising. (lemmy.ml)
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It is so difficult to find modern electronics without telemetry and ads. Smartphones, laptops, TVs, home routers, security cameras, cars, game consoles, e-readers, projectors, 3D printers, fitness trackers, speakers, and even some printers. Why can’t customers be free from this data collection and advertising? It’s not that we don’t care about it. There simply aren’t many alternatives, and the few that do exist are either more expensive or offer fewer features. Seriously, we need a list of products we can buy without worrying about telemetry or advertising.

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[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never said that you are wrong. You have misinterpreted that. I simply say that in general, that what you said about your relative is not enough to assume that the relative does not care about privacy.

I never have said anything else. More information was not given.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We are talking about a specific person that you quoted how I described them as if I might be making shit up. The fact that I said "my relative" is enough information for any reasonable person to know I probably have a long history with them. I never once said this applies to every person. I only mentioned they are tech saavy because they absolutely have the capability of understanding and being shocked by privacy invasions, they just decided long ago it wasn't worth caring about. And I know this due to the dozens of interactions with them on the topic. Including essentially telling me I'm wasting my time caring of my TV spies on me. More history there is that I've told them about real cases of this happening years ago also and they dismissed that as not mattering then as well

Weird interaction.

[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We are talking about a specific person that you quoted how I described them as if I might be making shit up.

No, thats just you beeing offended. Never once did that.

I never once said this applies to every person.

But with the quote at the start you implied that there a lots of ppl. It should be common sense that there is almost never a 100% complete agreement within such a broad undefined group.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There are lots of people like that. I'm done here.

[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Yes and i never said anything different. But your anecdotes does not provide that generalization.