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I saw it on my way into town, somebody put out a casio WK-3000 piano out on the curb for free, with the stand power cord and even manual. The craziest part is its fully functional. Not a darn thing wrong with it 'cept some dust. Now I have to learn piano.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, it doesn't really matter what the onboard synth sounds like if it's got MIDI 'cause you can just hook it up to a better one.

[–] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Sure, just trying to justify why this was put on the sidewalk. For what it’s worth, I can get a midi controller with the same features as a Casio for cheaper if I go M Audio or something like that. Have had better experiences using a dedicated midi controller instead of an onboard synth plugged in thru USB/midi when I’m planning to hook it up to a computer or off board synthesizer.

Free is definitely better than cheap, though.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

These days (and by that I mean for about two decades now) people are spoiled with PCs that can synthesize literally whatever waveform you want in software. As far as I'm concerned, standalone or onboard synthesizers are pretty much just obsolete entirely, with the only exception being little toy ones like the Stylophone or Otamatone.

[–] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Probably more like two arguments for musician vs producer. I’m a musician and teach music. If I walk up to an acoustic piano, I expect it to be high quality, consistent, and able to produce a wide variety of tones that cover all of my needs accessed through user manipulation. When I use a synthesizer and need a piano, I expect the same thing and prioritize those qualities.

A music producer that spends most of their time producing recordings instead of live playing may prioritize variety in tone and quality at the push of a button. I see both arguments. For me, the Yamaha on board synth is the winner, but sure, not as wide a variety as having every VST known to man at your finger tips.

[–] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Guess it depends on the VST. The marching arts use MainStage as a staple, and their onboard sounds are shit. They had an update recently that drastically improved/replaced a lot of piano sounds, but they’re recording/pop tune pianos. Very good, but don’t act like a piano through the dynamic range and release. There are some good piano VSTs, but you need to purchase multiple VSTs to get all the right sounds you want. I may use one piano VST for one movement and a different high quality one for another movement. Through my experience with a variety of industry standard piano VSTs played through any number of industry standard DAWs, I still haven’t found a setup that perfectly matches the nature of playing a piano and how it reacts to your fingers the way a Yamaha piano patch does. Take a Yamaha piano patch and put it through whatever filters you want, and you can get a highly realistic player experience with all the mushy gushy reverb or anything else you want.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I gotta admit, I'm not actually a musician (not since high school, anyway), so I'll defer to your expertise. My perspective is more of somebody who remembers when SoundBlasters and whatnot used to matter and how they now don't.