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Its an old LG, but given the recent light on the lengths they'll go to spy on us, I figured this guy was better off without any ability to even connect wirelessly. Don't know if the Ethernet still works but I plan on keeping my TVs as dumb as possible, HDMI only.

If you're wondering how to open lg TVs you just have to remove all the screws then start pulling open at the bottom and open the clips going up. With the TV face down on a soft surface just keep pulling on the back case from the bottom, it'll take some effort to pop open. The top edge folds open more like a hidge than clips.

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[–] voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 163 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

The problem is researchers found out that lg tvs will scan available ssids and connect to any network available to deliver its payload back to LG, without your knowledge or consent

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 8 points 7 hours ago

I have an offline LG TV and an open isolated guest network it could theoretically connect to. I check periodically and it has never attempted to do so.

Just an anecdote, but I personally have seen no evidence of this happening.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 66 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] brambc@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

Sanity has left us all since, erm, about 2001? Might be off with that estimate, but definitely before 2007!

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have neighbors with a non password protected gateway or router to the open internet? Open unsecured networks seem so rare these days.

[–] Pantrygheist@programming.dev 5 points 8 hours ago

Some devices can create unadvertised networks, they might just go over a list of possible ids

[–] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] Feyd@programming.dev 21 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Mind pointing to that researcher's findings?

[–] voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

It was the gamers nexus report others are referencing, but apparently I misread from a secondary source. It seems it was inferred that that could be possible because the TV is logging all nearby networks via wifi and devices via bluetooth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFVTcM28KA

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 34 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Feyd@programming.dev 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like that one is only ~30 minutes

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Feyd@programming.dev 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

When the TV is in standby mode and appears to be turned off, it only monitors for the wake word if you have previously enabled the Far-Field feature. If no wake word is detected, the audio used for wake word detection is processed locally on the TV, promptly deleted, and is not transmitted to LG servers.

Is this what you're talking about? It looks like it is speculation that they might connect to open wifi because they can, not any sort of reproduction or confirmation like the OP suggested

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's something that has been said for years now about smart TVs in general not just LG, but I haven't been able to find any conclusive evidence that it's happening... And obviously it can't be proven that it's NOT happening.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 5 points 10 hours ago

I don't disagree that it is a possibility it could start happening, but surely some security researcher would have reproduced it by now if it already was. The shit they are doing is bad enough that we don't need to muddy the water with lies.

[–] ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Gamers' Nexus speculated on the ability to connect to the other SSIDs if memory serves, or did that ever get proven?

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 15 hours ago

Not proven, but obviously that's possible for any device with Wi-Fi, and it has happened with many other "smart" devices before

[–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 4 points 14 hours ago

Sounds like we need to have some fake point where it can drop its package into instead. Make the TV think it uploaded successfully but it just goes into a trash can.

Somehow this can work with some DNS tinkering.