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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] daannii@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] ContactClosure@lemmus.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Sony put a mic in both. It has a switch to "turn off" the mic on the TV but IIRC the TOS says right up top they're still listening.

Cheap universal learning remotes don't have mics, that helps a little.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seems like a terrible place for an active listening device.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not really. It's closer to people than the TV is.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would you pick the small battery operated device that gets lost under couch cushions when you can put a mic in the big thing that is plugged in 24/7 and by design has a central and open placement in a room?

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why not both?

Apparently that's what some of them are doing.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Why not put an active listening device in your bank card? Why not secretly sew it into your clothes.

I'm not saying there can't be one in the remote, it's just that the TV itself is a much better option; always has power, doesn't rely on chemical batteries, doesn't need to maximize battery life, (typically) placed with open facing to a room (for clear and consistent audio.

Sure, you can put an always-on listening device on the remote, but you're gonna use more battery to power it, you're gonna need more hardware to handle communication to the TV, and more battery to power that. It's a pretty big compromise for a device that is supposed to go years without changing the batteries. All that trouble to put one in the remote when you can/probably have one in the TV already, and then then remote gets stuck in the couch cushions, or put in a drawer, or lost, or replaced with a different remote. It just doesn't make sense to me to put that kind of effort into what will inevitably be an unreliable and inconsistent spying device.