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[–] Squirrelsdrivemenuts@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Those that can go more than 25 kph should be classified as e-motorcycles. But those that are limited in speed are proper e-bikes and should remain accessible to children and have a low difficulty to buy and start using. In the Netherlands there is already a clear legal difference between the two and unlicensed e-motorbikes that can exceed 25kph are illegal, they need a license plate.

[–] OilyArena@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's so easy to hide a little switch to toggle "bike legal mode" on many models, in my experience that doesn't really stop people, sadly.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It should be pretty easy to tell by the type of motor it has. An e-bike with a low-watt motor isn't going to suddenly become a menace by flipping a fancy switch.

Likewise if a bike has a motor capable of pulling 35 mph or whatever, then it doesn't matter if they can turn a governor on to keep it below 25 mph. It's still got the more powerful motor and will be classified as such

[–] OilyArena@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not really, a 250W (average, not peak!) motor can exceed 25km/h easily on flat ground, the only difference to a stronger motor would be the acceleration.

Disabling the electronic limit is the issue.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well, not "easily". I think we can agree that all else being equal pedestrian outcomes are better when motors are 250W than 600W, whether or not limited. I think it's totally reasonable to restrict unlicensed riders to motors with power output within normal human capacity, like 100-200W.

[–] OilyArena@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

afaik, those numbers just don't tell you a whole lot about the actual power of the motor. A "250W motor" could produce peak power output of 1kW during short bursts, as long as the average power over a longer time is at or below 250W, they're fully legal.