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‘Who knows what they’re taking?’: people risk the gray market for the newest weight-loss drug
(www.theguardian.com)
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The problem is that people don’t know whether they are getting a real product or not. That can be a harmless substance at best and laced with dangerous toxins and methamphetamine at worst.
Correct and probably one of the biggest reasons they’re taking that route is insurance isn’t covering it or it’s too expensive. Same with insulin.
This one is NOT even approved yet. There is no way to get it outside of the grey market unless you are in the trial for it.
I’m referring to GLP1s in general.
The article is literally about people that are already on GLP-1s, but want to see even more progress so they jump to the grey market for the newest thing.
GLP-1s in general are easy to get and pretty cheap. You can get semaglutide (Ozempic/WeGovy) from several telehealth pharmacies for like $70 a month.
Cool story and I’m adding to it by noting that insurance and cost issues are affecting more than just this one.
GLP1s are cheap and easy to get. Cheaper than what you save from eating less food when you're on them, and you can get them easily online from the myriad of telehealth companies.
That's not what this article is about though. This article is about people specifically jumping to the grey market to get retatrutide because they want more progress than they're getting on the legal GLP-1s.
I don’t doubt that obesity is a real disease but there are many people who are taking the black market stuff when they are just overweight and looking for a way to lose weight without having to diet or exercise. That is incredibly stupid and reckless and I don’t think we should be understanding of those people.
that's an issue with testing being expensive, and is extremely easy to fix (build more labs)
Stuff coming off the black market generally doesn’t get tested
what's stopping the purchaser from getting it tested?
Time, money, knowledge, fear of getting caught, etc.
I think you’ve got it backwards. You really can’t have people order shit through dubious sources off the black market and then have everyone test whether they actually got a product or not. People need to take GLP-1 agonists for a long time, you have to test every batch, for every person etc.
Better to have a few big QCs at the source than millions of tiny QCs with a high risk of bad quality stuff as well as stuff slipping through.
GLP-1 agonists last years in a controlled environment so I think it's reasonable to buy in bulk every few years and get them tested then.
What crime is it to possess a peptide? selling and distribution is fairly obviously one but possession?
Not everyone has that kind of money.
It’s a crime to buy a counterfeit substance that is still under patent.