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Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has launched yet another attack at the trans community by saying that people “can’t be any sex they want to be.”

He made the remarks during his closing speech at the 2023 Conservative Party conference on Wednesday (4 October) afternoon.

At one point, Sunak said that people shouldn’t be “bullied into believing people can be any sex they want to be” as he made clear his stance on trans people.

“We are going to change this country and that means, life means life. That shouldn’t be a controversial position. The vast majority of hard-working people agree with it,” he began. “We shouldn’t get bullied into believing people can be any sex they want to be. They can’t,” – Rishi Sunak

“It also shouldn’t be controversial for parents to know what their children are learning in school about relationships.

“Patients should know when hospitals are talking about men or women,” which was met with a large applause.

He went on: “We shouldn’t get bullied into believing people can be any sex they want to be. They can’t.”

“A man, is a man, and a woman, is a woman, that is just common sense,” he added, to yet more noise from Tories in attendance.

Many on social media site X (formerly known as Twitter) reacted to the comments, accusing Sunak of making “persistent attacks” and labelling him “disgraceful”. “A man, is a man, and a woman, is a woman”

One wrote in response: “Trying to distract people from his government’s corruption and incompetence by attacking some of the most vulnerable people in society. Vile.”

Needlessly stirring up hatred where it is unjustified to make a cheap political dig, before going on to claim the country is wonderful because of its tolerance. Disgraceful excuse for a PM,” another went on to add.

Sunak can go and do one. Pandering to middle class transphobes isn’t the election winner you think it is,” someone else echoed.

“The persistent attacks on not only one of the smallest but most at risk communities is vile. Absolutely disgusting party through and through including anyone who supports them,” a social media user weighed in.

It comes after Health Secretary Steve Barclay outlined plans yesterday (3 October) to ban trans women from accessing female NHS wards.

This has since been backed by other senior Tories such as Home Secretary Suella Braverman.

LGBTQ+ charity Stonewall criticised the announcement, labelling it a “cynical attempt to look busy” instead of actually improving women’s healthcare.

Addressing party members in Manchester, Mr Barclay said: “We need a common-sense approach to sex and equality issues in the NHS – that is why today I am announcing proposals for clearer rights for patients.

“And I can today confirm that sex-specific language has now been fully restored to online health advice pages about cervical and ovarian cancer and the menopause.

“It is vital that women’s voices are heard in the NHS and the privacy, dignity and safety of all patients are protected.”

The post Rishi Sunak says people ‘can’t be any sex they want to be’ in new swipe at trans community appeared first on Attitude.

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[–] moreeni@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but the only way to have your rights guaranteed is to fight for them, not vote

[–] OmegaMouse@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In what way would you suggest?

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is ignorance a national sport in the West? Organise, rally people, strike, protest, annoy the shit out of lawmakers who threaten you.

Gather a big force that could potentially organise a big riot.

Sun Tzu said:

Subjugating the enemy’s army without fighting is the true pinnacle of excellence.

That means you, most likely, won't have to actually riot, if they see the community is organised they won't risk a direct confrontation and would give in to your demands.

There are tons, tons of guides online on how to protest, organise, even how to go full guerilla. Just do not let your existance depend on a freaking vote.

[–] OmegaMouse@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ignorance? I'm well aware of the methods you've suggested, I was just wondering what exactly you were referring to when you said 'fight for them', and what you consider to be the most effective method.

Unfortunately I don't think it's as effective as you think (at getting people to give into demands). Thousands of people protested after Liz Truss' resignation asking for a general election last year. Rishi isn't going to call a general election any earlier than he needs to because he knows the conservatives are likely to lose. That said, yes I do think protests are a good way to drum up support and encourage people to vote. Despite what you may think, voting is important.

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Those protests were so big I only found a single article about them. Protesting means doing at the very least what the French were doing. Block roads, wreck havoc, ~~make transphobes disappear~~. Raising a big group of people would only work if they were organised and could, ahem, do something to the government.

Voting is only impactful to a certain, little, extent, when the government tells LGBTQ community they don't and/or shouldn't exist and the plan to fight back is to vote harder then something isn't right.