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    [–] Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I tried it for a while. I got caught up in the 'privacy' crowd on Reddit and went all out for a bit. Even de-googled my Android phone at the time. It is inconvenient as fuck. And you're going to be spending more time tinkering and looking for workarounds and alternate software than actually ever getting anything done. All just to stop an advertising company from detecting what you clicked on, or for the website owner to never get any telemetry.

    [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    de-googling your android can be pretty easy and convenient, nothing compared to disabling javascript IMO

    [–] Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Nah it's really not convenient when it comes to things like banking apps that get fussy about how customised your phone is. It's fine most of the time but you're going to be running into issues at inconvenient times when you don't really have the time to sit and play. Although I'm also talking a couple of years ago now, chances are things have improved.

    disabling javascript

    Yeah you're basically breaking everything. I did this before it was chic when I had a Nokia phone running Opera Mini lmao.

    [–] keiko@fedia.io 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Nah it's really not convenient when it comes to things like banking apps that get fussy about how customised your phone is.

    I don't trust banking apps, and I have absolutely no desire to install software that is so controlling.

    Yeah you're basically breaking everything.

    Sites which are non-functional without javascript are already "broken" in my view. So I simply don't use them.

    I did this before it was chic

    Is it though? Most people tend to try to talk me out of it. There seem to be lots of people who view it as unacceptable, and I've actually been bullied about it on a few occasions by people whom I'd thought were friends. I've learned to be defensive as a result, but that can come across the wrong way sometimes. I'd certainly rather it be chic than what it currently is, though I'm glad the comments in this thread have remained civil and generally positive.

    (I spent a long time typing that last paragraph and debating about whether or not to include it in this comment. Hopefully it's fine.)

    I don't trust banking apps

    Yeah, even banks are something that's forced onto us, that you actually just can't live without in the current system. I also tried fighting it for a bit but the bank I'm with is trying to eliminate ATMs and making it really difficult to do online banking the old school way. And afaik, other banks are trying to do the same now. Just a matter of time before a vanilla smartphone is as much of a requirement as a bank account itself.

    I spent a long time typing that last paragraph and debating about whether or not to include it in this comment

    Yeah I was honestly just making a joke about the chic thing. It's definitely not even close to mainstream. I really love your passion for this though lol. And I agree with the cause. Glad you stuck it out.

    My impression was that the OP was about disabling javascript. I've also had issues with banking apps on CalyxOS and iodΓ©OS, but overall could be worse

    [–] zane@infosec.pub 1 points 5 days ago

    Yeah I've been running graphene for years. I can understand how the technically illiterate might have problems on rare occasion. Multiple stores can get confusing. Launchers are a thing. Nevertheless its nothing over the frustration I had previously carrying something I couldn't trust in my pocket.

    [–] keiko@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago

    I got caught up in the 'privacy' crowd on Reddit and went all out for a bit.

    Same.

    Even de-googled my Android phone at the time.

    I went from iOS and OSX to linux mobile and Qubes OS.

    It is inconvenient as fuck.

    It certainly can be, living my digital life on my own terms like this. And yet I persist.

    And you're going to be spending more time tinkering and looking for workarounds and alternate software than actually ever getting anything done.

    I wouldn't have it any other way. I don't feel that I'm held back by FOSS. I feel strengthened by the wide array of free software available to me. I have no use for anything from google other than their free noto fonts.

    All just to stop an advertising company from detecting what you clicked on, or for the website owner to never get any telemetry.

    It's far beyond that. From the moment I began my journey into understanding and attaining privacy, security, and freedom, I was challenged. It was as if the world itself denied me the right to walk that path. And so I persisted.

    I will continue to make decisions for myself based on what I want and what I'm willing to sacrifice. Sites which require javascripts aren't even a sacrifice. I do not like them. I do not value them. I lose nothing by avoiding them. I have rare exceptions, and those are handled in disposable qubes.

    The world has hardened me into defiance in many ways, and I won't be bullied into compliance by corporations.