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Increasingly more popular opinion: the US government takeover committed by the Trump oligarchy is as much the result of incompetence of the Democratic party as it was a plan of evil 'geniuses'.
I'd say it's entirely dems fault as they were dropping the ball consistently since years. Trump should've been an easy opponent but he ended up as president second time
People wanted change. Trump promised change, the democrats promised more of the same.
Maybe democrats should promise change?
I think the detrimental part was avoiding any polarising subject that could alienate their core electorate. They wanted to retain it so much that they forgot about the general population. And then came Trump promising changes in areas general public had problems with. He was mostly lying, but he was lying about the right topics.
So it came down to the choice: Maybe a lying republican jackass, or total democrat apathy.
Yes! IMO the 'evil geniuses' had no effect whatsoever. Trump just wins by default when the Democrats run unpopular candidates.
I've been saying this for almost ten years now. Trump is not a popular candidate and never has been. In '16 he got fewer votes than Romney did in '12. If everyone who voted for Obama had voted for Clinton, Trump never would have won. The same is true with '20 vs. '24: if everyone who voted for Biden had voted for Harris, Trump never would have won the second time.
I also don't think Biden was ever that popular; I think any of the Democratic candidates would have won in 2020. I told anyone who would listen at the time, "Biden is a bad choice, some shit could heat up in Israel, and he's very out of touch with the Democratic base on that issue, and it could prevent him from getting re-elected." I will say, I didn't think Trump would get re-elected after J6, I thought it would be some other Republican. But, it also felt like the Democrats also never really went after Trump for what he did on J6 so.
Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is I agree and I'm glad to hear other people say it. The Democrats are too willing to compromise with Republicans who never compromise with them, and it keeps losing them elections. So even though Americans as we actually exist are reasonably progressive on most issues (legalizing weed and having universal healthcare poll higher than any sitting politician, there are about 1.5x as many registered Dems as Reps in this country, etc), we're stuck with an extremely regressive government. That's the context that leads to progressives like Mamdani winning in "upset" victories and the Democratic leadership is all surprised.
Yeah and you said California banning a chemical wasn't news so that's another indication of how much anyone should take you seriously.
My opinion on that is totally relevant to my opinion on this. /s
Next time we disagree, please bring a valid argument instead to discrediting because of something i said somewhere else.
Next time you say something please remember you have bad opinions
Yeah. There was this drunk driver that hit a kid. Stupid parents. It's just the result of incompetence of the parenting party than a result of drunk driving.
They lost to Donald fucking Trump. The biggest loser of all time. And they lost twice.
I dont think that is a fair comparison. Also i am not saying it is only the fault of the opposing party, i'm saying it is as much as. It is naive to think this would have been able no matter what the Democratic party did in the years/decades leading up to the first Trump presidency. Sure it is easy to talk in hindsight, I'll give them that. I'm also not saying they wanted this to happen. But if the parents of the drunk driver never gave their child a good talk on the dangers of drinking, that accident is partly theirs to blame too.
Yeah. Except the parents insisted their child play in the middle of the street at 1am and instead of condemning the drunk driver, they claim drunk driving is part of life