cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/c/noncredibledefense/p/1490862/the-correct-response
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Did Ukraine ask for help?
yes
Then it's simple. The US should help Ukraine. They're being invaded and are asking for help. For the "pragmatists", any nation what helps Ukraine with have an easier time doing business with them afterwards.
The US has.
Ukraine has explicitly NOT asked for direct military assistance. They have not asked for troops or US airstrikes.
They have asked for weapons, logistics, intelligence, and ammunition. All of which have been provided by the US and European NATO nations.
Ukrainians repeatedly asked to close the sky, which is de-facto a sort of direct help. Also talks about NATO troops being stationed on the West part. Still no balls.
Second paragraph - only after 2022. Ukraine was denied even buying Western equipment in 2014. Obama is an asshole.
It's basically Chamberlain++.
Chamberlain's appeasement for fear of kicking off WWII was bad enough, but now nuclear missiles are on the table, so there's much more fear.
There's never a good time to kick off WWIII, so most nations are going to bend over backward to not do so.
I do not believe that Russia has working nukes and I bet most nation's intelligence don't believe they do either, but no one wants bet on that.
Also, I believe we're already in WWIII. At least at some point in the future, the start of it will be retroactively decided to have happened before now.
That's a huge stretch. Working ICBMs are 1960s tech'. Russia has repeatedly demonstrated they're perfectly capable of employing 1960s tech' reliably enough to function sometimes.
It doesn't take a 2026 nuke to hit a country in 2026. The more modern, the more likely it hits, but they have so many.
You're being pedantic about the term WWIII. We both know what I meant.
Nukes don't store forever. They require more upkeep then other types of military equipment and Russia has proven to be lacking by their initial invasion. Keen eyes noticed that the trucks they were using were sitting for years by the dryrot wear on the tires.
I'm no nuclear expert but I do dabble in statistics, and you're making an argument for "the majority of the Russian stockpile will be too decrepit to function," not an argument for "all of the Russian stockpile will be too decrepit to function."
All it takes is one to kill millions. That's the scenario The West is desperately trying to avoid at any cost.
I don't know why you're doing mental gymnastics to deny either above point, but it's getting exhausting trying to keep up with you.
Nuclear material decays and as it decays, will not detonate with the energy from the explosive material it was built with. It NEEDS to be replaced on an regular basis, depending on the type it is. It's not a matter of a chance o-ring dry rotting or chance capacitor leaking or chance fuel going bad.
Putin's a bully. There's an implicate threat that Putin will use nukes if he doesn't get what he wants, but he'll never be happy with what he has. The best case scenario is he croaks on his own because he's too damn paranoid to let someone near him assassinate him. He's probably scared shitless from the recent drone attack on his palace.
Russia has blackmail on "The West." That's why they're complicate. Politicians are self serving shits. If they cared about unnecessary deaths, they would have handled Covid better.
You're right!
Assuming 90% enriched uranium core, given a half life of 704,000,000 years, and a minimum enrichment of 20% when using neutron reflectors, explosive compression, and tritium dosing, the average nuclear core will decay enough to be unusable in approximately 1.5 billion years.
The parts that need maintenance are the rocket fuel, the explosive charges used to compress the core, and replacing the tritium. On a time scale of billion+ years, you'll also probably have to replace...well, everything else.
Of course, modern nukes sometimes use plutonium, which only has a half life of about 24,110 years. Those cores should be damn near unusable about 10k years after the events of warhammer 40k. Maybe they should make a warhammer 52K that runs into that issue.
Of course, cores that fail to detonate simply become radioactive shrapnel. This is colloquially known as a "dirty bomb". Not very kaboom, but very "help! I've grown a third arm!"
That's 1940s technology.
Not sure why you included this because it's irrelevant and I agree, but I guess if you had to get a quick soapbox Red Herring out, it's not like I can stop you.
More Red Herring soapboxing. Try to stay on topic with your next comment.
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/22540-05-ukraine-could-not-have-kept-nuclear
There's more in there, but the gist is is that if Ukraine couldn't have maintained the nukes they had then the USSR fell, I don't think Russia could have either.
My point in calling out Putin as a bully is that if he actually has working nukes, he will use then whether or not we abide by his threats or not.
You seem to be arguing against a position you imagine I hold rather than what I've explained.
Every comment so far has been me trying to re-assert that position and you more or less ignoring it to put your straw man icing on the rest of your comment, like this here.
It's like debating if a house is on fire where one half of the debate thinks the other half is only talking about house fires because they think aliens are real, so they spend half their time disproving aliens.
You assert that Putin will use Nukes if the west helps Ukraine too much. I assert that Putin would use Nukes regardless if he had them.
Okay yeah that's where we differ, and I don't think we'll be able to convince each other of our respective positions.