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[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 178 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I dust off my robe and wizard hat.

Plex is a great streaming alternative. Cancelling Netflix pays for the upgrade to gigabit Internet. Hard drives are cheaper now than ever. Usenet access remains safe and speedy. The DIY community for automation is thriving.

Is that the Jolly Roger coming in to port? Welcome back old friends.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 91 points 1 year ago

Worth checking out Jellyfin as well

[-] Jarmer@slrpnk.net 69 points 1 year ago

I MUCH prefer Jellyfin to Plex. Jellyfin seems to have active development whereas Plex is more interested in adding in a ton of "features" (aka garbage) that I never ever wanted and continues to leave YEARS old bugs out in the wild. I think it won't be long until Plex enshittifies itself to death. They clearly have a financial situation that is not aligned with its users.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Plex has a client on my TV and Xbox. How would I watch Jellyfin content on those?

I say this a guy that got his RasPi3 Plex server running just good and stable a year ago and doesn't touch it except to cycle in new content.

[-] mark3748@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

You could use Emby instead. Jellyfin is the FOSS version of Emby and Emby has apps for everything. I moved to Emby from Plex five years ago or so and it’s been great.

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[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

I agree, I'll give the software another try once I have more free time to learn and troubleshoot

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[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I tried but the technical gap from Plex to Jellyfin was too intense for me to try and make work at this time of my life. Plex works well for my purposes and I paid for the phone apps when needed ($6 per device I think).

I admire and support Jellyfin as FOSS and hope I can jump on when I have more time to make it work.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah for sure, didn't mean to imply folks shouldn't use Plex just giving it a shout out as an alternative. I've used both and they are both pretty awesome. One of my friends set up a seed box with Jellyfin so I kinda cheated in leaving the tinkering to them but I don't think it was too bad with the provider they went with.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Exact same thing happened to me, i just couldn’t get it to consistently work.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

I can't for the life of me get HW encoding working with Jellyfin. Plex was just plug and play.

i7-11800H

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[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Yep. Finally got Radarr and Sonarr with overseerr setup this summer because I need a GUI solution for my family. It’s been working pretty great so far!

[-] HeyMrDeadMan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I have the same but the one thing I can't get working is accessing overseer from outside the network (ie internet). I've read guides of course but at some point they start talking about domains and certificate signing and I start to have a siezure.

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Look into Caddy, it's by far the easiest web server/reverse proxy with automatic SSL support out there. Setup both Caddy and Overseer in Docker and then just simply write

overseer.yourdomain.com {

reverse_proxy overseer:overseer port

}

Assuming you have you own domain name and have DNS records setup.

I was using Nginx and Let's Encrypt for years but it was a bit of a pain in the ass. I just rewrote my entire Docker Compose script to use Caddy so I can deploy everything in about 5 minutes.

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[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Plex is cracking down on pirated content. They can't do anything locally (yet) but they sent out a mass email about two weeks ago saying that anyone that hosts a Plex server in the cloud (they didn't specifically mention Hetzner, but that's who is largely being affected) will lose access on October 12th.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 21 points 1 year ago

That's because people were creating their own 'streaming services' using pirated content and selling access to it using Hetzner servers, which is very bad for all parties involved because it brings a lot of negative attention when actual profits are being generated from distributing pirated material.

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

People thought hosting copyrighted content on someone's cloud and making it available to others was a good idea? 🤦🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️

This is why we can't have nice things.

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It's specifically people doing this and selling access to the servers en masse, like these servers have a hundred or more users each. The don't care about the small fish that are doing this privately for no monetary gain.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I guess it's often profit-driven. If you can get $5 per month from 100 people, you can probably clear hundreds of dollars per month. So that ten times, and this becomes quite a serious profit stream.

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[-] porksoda@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Plex is cracking down on pirated content.

I'm just as jaded and cynical as the next guy, but I think that this is a mischaracterization of that email. People were hosting Plex servers with thousands of users and terabytes of pirated content on Hetzner and selling access. I don't read them taking action as a signal for them blocking local libraries in the future.

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They all do it just to get the lawyers off their backs. Plex is just a bigger target. Plex can't block anything locally so they take action against user distributing pirated content on a cloud service and are like "Here, we took action, can you leave us alone now?". It would practically be impossible for them to block the distribution of pirated content at the local level.

Plex fucked up when they created their Client-Server model because it allows traffic to run through their servers (the Plex Relay and their "phone home" model). This makes them legally responsible for "facilitating access to pirated content" even though they don't host the content. Jellyfin doesn't have this pitfall since you host everything yourself, they just provide the software.

You're the second person that says " Plex isn't cracking down on pirated content.... but they're banning people who are hosting servers with pirated content." If that's not " cracking down on pirated content" IDK what is....

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[-] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That’s their entire userbase. Bold call haha

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, people act like Plex and other media servers are used for legally obtained content only. Plex is just covering their asses and they can't block users hosting locally so this is a "here we did something, are you happy now?" to the copyright lawyers.

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[-] rizoid@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

Is there any links/guides on how to get into the usenet side of things? I've been using torrents forever but people keep saying usenet is safer.

[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Google/learn about/consider these things

VPN, Usenet provider (i.e. EasyNews), Usenet indexers (i.e. NZBgeek), Usenet client (i.e. NZBget), Managing your library (Sonarr, Radar, Prowlarr, Filebot),

Media server & streaming (i.e. Plex, Jellyfin)

I watch through my firestick or android phones

I might be missing something, but there are lots of guides once you figure out what you're looking for. A little technical know-how makes things go smoother and faster though.

[-] rizoid@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the info. I've got. Sonarr radarr and prowlarr set up with qbitt right now and jellyfin. I'll have to do some digging this weekend.

[-] Maximilious@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Worth mentioning that NZBget is no longer in development. It still works but there is a fork out of a new client someone is developing. I can't recall the name but easily findable. This would be the equivalent of your torrent client.

It's nearing year end and you can get end of year deals soon on providers and indexers so off hold off until November\December. I think I got a lifetime NZBGeek membership last year for like $100 or something. It was my first time doing usenet but I actually switched my instances to use usenet indexers first over torrent indexers its that good.

[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a few recent guides on Reddit that discuss this and automation. I got access to some private torrent trackers this year, but haven't touched them since I got my Usenet subscription. I've been waiting decades for it to be this easy once you get it set up.

If you already have that automation part going, this should be pretty straight forward. Add a Usenet download client to your *arr programs, put in the account info from your Usenet provider, add on your account info for nzb trackers, and it works just the same except with more consistency and speed.

[-] TaintPuncher@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I tried to get into Usenet but I’m old and unable to learn new tricks. I just looked at EasyNews and it’s $9.99 pm for 20GB :| so, like, a single 4K movie with Atmos. I don’t understand the allure of UseNet, perhaps because I am a dumb.

[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have EasyNews, I think I paid $30 for 6 months of unlimited.

Here you go, $6 a month unlimited signup link https://signup.easynews.com/checkout/unlimited-special-deal/

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Got any names in particular? I’ve been looking at Usenet for a long long time and I think I’m going to finally get serious about it

[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Sure, check through this comment thread as a few have already been mentioned.

I will take a second look!

[-] evanuggetpi@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Stremio + Real Debrid is definitely not worth investigating. Avoid it at all costs. Keep giving these media companies more money. All the money. Disney needs your dollars.

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