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[–] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If you use starlink, you deserve far worse. 5g is usually sufficient unless you’re out in the ocean or something. Either way it’s ruining the night sky, making launches more dangerous, destroying the ozone layer we tried so hard to repair, and supporting death and fascism.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tell me you know nothing about rural living without telling you know nothing about rural living

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago

Fortunately in my area in Australia we have wireless broadband. There are small towers installed and operated by a local company that provide a good service. The whole lot of towers interconnect using microwave too so can span a large area. In any case, fibre isn’t coming to my place probably ever.

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

destroying the ozone layer

This made me ask "wait, is that true" and apparently it is. Super, skin cancer for everyone. 🤦

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 7 points 2 days ago

And it'll take ages to have an impact too.

Furthermore, we find that these reentry byproducts may take up to 30 years to settle from the top of the mesosphere into the stratospheric ozone layer. Upon reaching an altitude of about 40 km, aluminum oxides catalyze chlorine activation which promotes ozone depletion.

So the "reentry byproducts" from a satellite re-entering now, won't start breaking down ozone until 2056, and by then there will be another 30 years' worth of byproducts deposited in the upper atmosphere.

And since it's a catalyst, it won't even be consumed in the process like CFCs are.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tldr aluminum from burning up satellites is a catalyst that breaks down ozone.

[–] wioum@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I wonder if wooden satellites would help. I don't know how capable they are compared to normal ones, but it should reduce the amount of aluminium we launch into space.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

5G in rural America is terrible. I can't make a phone call in my house, let alone get an internet connection. I'm not even in a particularly remote area.

There are Starlink dishes everwhere you look here because it's currently the only real option. It will probably be a while until they get some competition from Amazon.

[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Because they lobbied to shutdown running fiber to your community.

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 1 points 1 day ago

there is 100s of miles of fiber spools just sitting for years at a utility maintenance yard here. the provider that was doing the work to expand services just took the rest of the free money and split.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe someday someone can explain why ISPs are not municipal services like water and sewage.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

The local ISP has been promising fiber for over a decade. They waited until Starlink took most of their customers before they started putting it in.