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Flight Attendants Reportedly Refusing to Sign Up to New Biometric Controls That Let Them Skip TSA Security Checks (www.paddleyourownkanoo.com)

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Thing is a lot of them use Global Entry for international travel or have otherwise used travel as a regular passenger where their imaged biometrics were already used to pass through security for travel.

I need to ask around about the rationalization behind the resistance, this seems like fighting a battle that they don't understand they lost years ago. Like refusing to use an app on an iphone because it sells its data to apple while carrying an iphone that already does that.

E: read the edit below. Bunch of armchair experts have comprehension issues. Don’t make up what I didn’t say.

[–] FiniteBanjo@programming.dev 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nope!

Since 2011, flight attendants and pilots have been able to bypass regular TSA airport security screening through the ‘Known Crewmember’ (KCM) program, which has never been administered by the Department of Homeland Security, but rather as a joint initiative between the Air Line Pilots Association and industry trade group Airlines For America (A4A).

The new system would give data directly over to the DHS. The old system was privately managed and implemented.

Sure those companies COULD hypothetically sell the data to DHS or the DHS could find another way to legally request it, but I think both cases would be highly publicized, e.g. we're talking about it under one such article.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I’m not sure what you mean by “nope!”

I’m an airline pilot. I deal with this every day at work.

Edit: y’all are unbelievable, just making shit up I didn’t say. I said nothing about KCM, but thanks for assuming I don’t know how that works.

I specifically stated traveling as a passenger and using the TSA’s facial recognition as part of security which absolutely is run by DHS, and I mentioned global entry which is managed by CBP and Trusted Traveler Program which is ALSO run by the DHS.

My image and tens of thousands of other airline crewmembers are already in the system.

So please keep telling me I don’t know what I’m doing at my job. Damn, that’s irritating AF.

[–] FiniteBanjo@programming.dev 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You deal with the KCM which since 2011 has never been managed directly by the DHS.

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Walking through a scanner every day doesn’t mean you understand it or what is done with the data.

Just like sitting in an airplane doesn’t mean I know how to fly it.

Stay in your lane when it comes to claims of expertise sir sky cabbie

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Stay in your lane when it comes to claims of expertise sir sky cabbie

No need to be a dick, bro.

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He made a claim of authority where he has none.

Calling him out is only reasonable.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, but you don't have to be a dick about it.