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Wage is predetermined by contract. Getting tips is random money with no guarantees.
No idea why people defend this system. Depending on goodwill of random people is not the way to go.
OK, you can come to america and start a restaurant without tips and see how it goes. You can prove everyone here wrong!
or... places here have tried that before and almost all of them have failed because it's not sustainable to pay people $25+ an hour and customers won't pay the prices on that food when they can go down the street and pay half as much.
good news is you don't live here, so it's none of your concern really.
Like the 10 closest restaurants near me don't allow tipping and pay their workers 22-27 an hour... And they do just fine?
I'm in California.
You might be a idiot full of shit. Who doesn't actually know fuck or all about this topic. Just defending a shitty practice.
where is that precisely? SF? LA? what is the income in that zip code?
I have no doubt it's possible in a very high income area where people dont' care about paying $50 for hamburgers, but you're a fool if you think that's generalization to a zip code where the median income is 40-50K.
Also, how long have they been around? months? years?
a few places in my city went that route and closed after 2-3 years. they were experiments.
What are you talking about? The biggest restaurant chain in the US (McDonalds) forbids tipping. Last I checked they’re doing OK.
Hey, yeah! How do all these tipping apologists contend with all the fast food places that pay their workers and don’t take tips?