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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 64 points 3 weeks ago (26 children)

On the other hand, why do you think we gave up the hunter/gatherer life style?

Cultivating grapes for wine and grain for beer was the origin of civilization!

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2501758-did-ancient-humans-start-farming-so-they-could-drink-more-beer/

[–] c64z86@piefed.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

With one important difference: Wine was often diluted back then and beer was not as strong as it is today, so it was much less dangerous on the whole, and it was so weak that even children drank it instead of the terrible water of the time. Though they also drank water when it was good.

[–] zout@fedia.io 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Less strong, but since they drank beer instead of water overall consumption was higher. Lots of people should still drink less though.

[–] c64z86@piefed.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah! It was seen as an everyday good feeling healthy thing back then and not just something to get wasted on, though that happened a lot too. I'd take the ancient mindset of moderation over today's alcohol addicted society anyday.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure it was so much about good feeling. From what I read it was more about booze being less likely to grant you a plague debuff than water back in the days.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

It's almost certainly both. It's not like alcohol is the only drug humans have used. Most do not have that justification, yet they're still used.

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