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[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Pledge .... Pledge ....

committed to avoiding AI features

Promises Not to Force AI on You

I might give them the benefit of the doubt and try them again ('t has been years since)

[–] Reisen@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

while i don't use them as my main browser it feels vivaldi is one of the few ones who at least tries something new. who isn't just trying to emulate chrome with a few quality of life ones. i remember them introducing tiled tabs, stacked tabs, the tab bar on the sides or the bottom, way before i've seen any other browser do that? might not have been the first with all of those but at least firefox, chrome and edge didn't have that as an option back then

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tab management on Vivaldi is second to none. I pray every day that they swap to a Firefox backend one day, would be the best browser by a mile

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

That's why I still use them as my main. I can't close tabs, so between their workspaces with tiled tabs and tab memory management not keeping 200 processes open (I know!) it's been amazing for me. My only reservation is it being chromium.

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

What makes firefox's backend better? I've been considering switching from it lately.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] blah3166@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

Basically this.

Any browser that leverages Google's Chromium project is enabling Google to continue to drive the web. Alternative browsers, first and foremost, must not be built using Chromium.

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

Not that Firefox's back end is better rather that every other browser out there is some form of chromium which means Google getting to control the internet.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Chromium based ones are at the mercy of Google. Firefox, however, is independent in that sense.

When google decides to drop support for manifest V2 (which is the one unlock origin uses), every chromium browser drops support for it. Unless they make a fork of chromium and add manifest V2 back in. Which means extra effort every time they want to update with upstream, since there probably will be merge conflicts.

Firefox can just not drop support for it, literally 0 effort.

[–] zerofk@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

On PC I’ve used them pretty much since the start and I have very little to complain about.

On mobile (iOS) I tried a few times but it’s unbearably slow.

[–] alansuspect@quokk.au 3 points 2 weeks ago

The issue with iOS is all browsers have to use Safari backend so it's not the same as on other devices.

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I've also been on Vivaldi since right around the start. I'd just wish they would fix their address bar suggestions to actually work. It isn't great to start, and then decides to completely break every few months and do stuff like when I type "you" to go to youtube it insists on autofilling to a specific video I watched months ago. The only fix I've found is to nuke the profile and start over.

I've switched to Zen on my computer a couple months ago exclusively because of that issue.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

yeah I use vivaldi on mobile and it's so painfully slow and horrible. I'd switch but I hate using my phone anyways so I don't really care.