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Ever wonder why you feel powerless as a citizen? This is why.
The source OP gives doesn't even show her saying that.
https://www.wxyz.com/news/data-centers/oracle-openai-barn-data-center-breaks-ground-in-saline-township-additional-community-investments-announced
Screw data centers but this is clearly a bad faith or ignorant post/tweet
This is only happening because Leftists didn't vote for Hillary Clinton in 2008
Gotta put an /s on this, it's indistinguishable from the real thing
One-liners are the absolute worst kind of political speech. I can't tell if I agree with you or not. Clarify and defend your position*.
Was Clinton a better candidate in 2008 than Obama? Would her winning the primary have led Obama to run against trump in 2016/2020 instead, resulting in multiple terms of Democratic leadership, undermining capitalism? Or would she have lost and we'd have had our republican asshattery years earlier resulting in left-er leadership as the pendulum swung when this AI bullshit arrived.
My point is: if your only contribution is a single statement like "this is their fault", just shut up. Trite comments don't inform.
*I'm actually pretty serious here. I'm new to "Left" and would have called myself a Liberal a few years ago on this forum. Tell me why this is my fault.
Demonstrably not, given that she handed him dozens of Midwestern states virtually uncontested.
But that's just how Obama stole the election. He villainously campaigned in Red States as though their primary voters actually mattered.
So much of political analysis seems to boil down to "you can only win if you do exactly what I say and never disagree with me in public".
Hillary learned hard on that pitch in 2008 and again in 2016. Biden and Harris adopted it in 2020 and 2024.
And every time the message alienated people, it's their fault when the Dem loses.
Strangely enough, I'm still not sure how you feel. I've upvoted you because I think this 'adds to the conversation' even if I eventually disagree with you.
Your line was "... because Leftists didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton in 2008".
So you would or would not have preferred Clinton in the 2008 general election? Over what? I'm serious. I wasn't paying attention at that time to know how she compared to Obama. By the time I was really watching, she was leagues better than trump, but back in 2008, I was a simple straight-ticket blue voter -- doing my duty, punching my card every two years and feeling like I was helping.
(again my point is aimed at inform. Sell me on your point of view. I don't think we're enemies and there is a silent majority who agree on the end goal but maybe not the path.)
How is today's situation on the shoulders of people who didn't vote for Hillary in 2008's Primary?
I know people who have succumbed to not good enough, and let some terrible people win. This is perhaps more pronounced locally, if you start looking, where a handful of votes is the difference between a socialist or liberal winning over a conservative or fascist.
I think this is only happening because capital does what capital does, and it tries to own the narrative. Berating people because the self-appointed leadership failed them is totally not a thing this community is trying to do. right?