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Both CS and TF2 are rated M.
This is a stupid argument. First, the ESRB is not the dictator of who plays what games. They are a recommendation group. Parents may want to consider what they say, but it should not be left at that. For example, sexual content is much worse than violent content in their eyes, and I'm sure we all agree that's stupid.
Second, kids play CS and TF2. We all know this, and Valve knows this. That's not a bad thing, even if they're rated M. I don't think they do any harm, and CS at least probably does some good, with learning teamwork and stuff. Valve then uses their platform to push gambling, which is wrong (it's psychologically manipulative, when they could just sell skins outright without manipulation) regardless of age, but particularly bad if they aren't trying to prevent kids from participating, and they aren't.
The only expection is AO rated games. That rating actually does carry legal requirements and restrictions. There's a big reason it's used so infrequently.
M rated games are only 17+ it's for minors. There's no legal restrictions. AO is 18+ and actually does carry legal requirements to sell.
Neat, and this supports what argument exactly?
Children should not be near those games. And it's parents job to make sure of it.
Oh, so you agree; Valve generally and Gabe specifically are mortally repugnant actors and should be criminally liable for their premeditated and deliberate targeting of minors.
No, Valve made M-rated games, it's the parents' responsibility to not have kids playing them.
I know, they're Parents, these unblamable entities, but here we are, sex has consequences.
Valve bears a legal, ethical, and moral culpability for targeting minors specifically and with ill intent for decades.
I bet you think cigarette companies are blameless because there's an age requirement for tobacco, too.
Look in the mirror, chud. Simping for billionaires is a bad look. It pollutes your soul.
No, only legal. The other responsibilities are the parents', which i bet you won't consider culpable at all if their kids start to smoke.
I agree that they started a machine that was unnecessary and it is repugnant; I still blame parents for any children involved.
Never have I seen any minor targeting from Valve.