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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Strong disagree.

Put a guy back 200 years ago with the concept of things to come and let the great thinker of the time stand on the shoulders of an Everyman from today, we would be at least a hundred years ahead of where we are currently.

There were some very intelligent people back then who just didn't know the rules of the game they were playing. They had to figure out the rules so future inventors could build off of them.

Go back 200 years and say "everything is made of things from the periodic table, it has rows and columns" and you instantly revolutionize chemistry. If you know of acids and bases you're even further along. There are ways to communicate long distances without using sounds or visible light, boom twenty years later I guarantee someone will have figured it out, it's terribly obvious once you know it's possible, but why would you assume invisible communication is possible since it's so outlandish to our seemingly natural everyday rules?

The only thing you need to do is survive being proclaimed a heretic, you need to get open minded thinkers to hear you, because the closed mindedness was even more entrenched in society than it is today.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 14 points 2 days ago

There are ways to communicate long distances without using sounds or visible light

Somebody in 1826: "No shit, dumbass. It's called a telegraph."

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Credibility is your biggest challenge, if you go back and inhabit a big name thinker's body you'll accomplish things, if you go back as an outcast stranger who appeared in the woods one day, you're probably going to die in a cell somewhere, or just of exposure, before you get anyone's serious attention about "what makes up everything."

Reminds me of a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

you're not completely incorrect, but you seem to have a very pop-sci picture of how the past worked.

If you suddenly appeared in the forest one day it's AFAIK perfectly possible that people would treat you as any immigrant, just go down to the church and get registered and everything will be just dandy so long as you can do some sort of work.

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 0 points 1 day ago

You'd speak practically a different form of English, you'd be unprepared for virtually every modern day hardship, you'd be unskilled at gaining resources and being gainfully employed. I think after about 3 days of interacting with people, they'd get really spooked by you, and that would be that.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Weren't there anti-vagrant and anti-spy laws?

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i'm not quite sure how that would work since pilgrimages and other long-distance travel was pretty normal, and there was no way to transfer information faster than said travel (especially not just to get papers on a random pilgrim).

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gdamn it! Is everything I read the past decade just disinformation?

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

when it comes to history a good rule of thumb is that anything mainstream is complete nonsense, just actually made up.