"Researchers noticed that the pits were arranged in repeating numerical patterns and grouped into sections, suggesting a deliberate organisational system rather than random digging."

"Band of Holes may have operated like an enormous outdoor spreadsheet or inventory system."

[–] SillyDude@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I did. Read my comment. I never said they were randomly dug, its very well documented that pit barriers are dug in specific patterns to minimize the navigable terrain.

[–] infeeeee@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Scientists analysed sediments collected from several pits and discovered traces of maize pollen, plant fibres, reeds, and organic material associated with human storage and transport activities.The maize evidence was especially important because maize pollen does not naturally spread far through the wind in large quantities. Researchers say this strongly suggests crops or goods were intentionally placed inside the holes.The discovery supports the idea that the pits were connected to trade, storage, or taxation activities rather than ceremonial use.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Eh, it's still just wild guesses.

All we really know is that someone(s) dug holes in a pattern, and possibly stored some maize and other materials in those holes.

It's even possible that the storage purpose was way after the holes were created. What if at first they were made to slow down the enemy, then both people fighting in the area left, someone else came, saw some cool holes in a pattern and was like "awesome, we got this shitton of corn and reeds and whatnot, these holes will be perfect to store them in!", and bam, now scientists are correlating the two because of the evidence being somewhat blurred.

A lot of archaeology is coming up with wild ideas supported by often very limited facts, and looking at other relevant sources that may or may not support the theory. This is especially true for sites that have little to no written confirmation of the purpose.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"Alot of archaeology is coming up with wild ideas supported by often very limited facts, and looking at other relevant sources that may or may not support the theory.

Yet that is exactly what you are doing by suggesting a discredited idea.

"But no evidence of strife—much less an adjacent settlement to defend—has been found at Monte Sierpe."

https://archaeology.org/issues/march-april-2026/features/return-to-serpent-mountain/

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And aside from pulling it out of your arse, where did you get the "discredited" part from?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I linked to the archaelogy.org article that discredited it with the relevent quote.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah, the link you've added AFTER my comment. Because nothing screams more fairness in a debate than going back and modifying your argument.

Also, the very article you quote does the polar opposite of what you claim. It does not discredit but actually support my "armchair archaeologist" theory (which wasn't even a theory, just an example of how things COULD be misappropriated due to archaeological evidence generally being scarce):

Their results have established that Monte Sierpe wasn’t actually the handiwork of the Inca, but of an entirely different kingdom that controlled the area before they arrived. The researchers believe the rulers of this kingdom designed the Band of Holes to serve a purpose that was vital to their success and that the Inca later expropriated it for use as a tribute depot.

Arguably I've only gotten haflway through the article as it's 2:30am here, but that very statement seems to suggest that said "discrediting" didn't really happen.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I added the link within a minute of posting and long before you replied. You must be on another instance to not have seen the change before you replied.

BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU MADE THE ASSERTION THAT SCIENTISTS ARE WRONG. IT IS YOUR JOB TO DEFEND YOUR ASSERTION, NOT MINE.

You are like Ben Carson declaring that, "Pyramids were built to be granerys, prove me wrong."

but that very statement

No, because there would be evidence of something military related or military adjacent. They said there was nothing.

[–] infeeeee@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, scientific method says we collect evidence, then try to find reason, get to some conclusion. Yes, it's an educated guess, but based on some evidence. Unlike your bullshitting: "I think that in my armchair 5000 km away, I must be right, and the archeologists on site are wrong"

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

Educated guess, based on very little evidence. Just like the above linked article where they found some broken bowl pieces, determined that the pieces are ~500 years old, thus the holes must be too... Only to be proven otherwise just a few years later because apparently considering the fact that maybe the bowls got there AFTER the holes were dug, is an outlandish idea.

Besides, my bullshitting was a theoretical example focusing not on being right, but showing how archaeologists can be wrong by assuming things that are very loosely supported by evidence. But that clearly went above both your heads...