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TLDR: Tesla will have as many robotaxis as Waymo in the year 2111, if the current growth rate holds (and if Waymo doesn't add a single additional vehicle). So... I'm guessing the Tesla stock price will skyrocket.

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[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I was actually surprised that Waymo had only thousands of units in operation.

That being said, 3,000 commercially operating for years with zero fatalities, that's not nothing. It's not a ton, it doesn't change the world (much), but it isn't zero. Tesla's result so far rounds down to zero.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There's also tons of incidents of Waymo robo-taxis speeding through school zones, turning the wrong way onto one-way streets, and stopping in the middle of the road obstructing traffic. And this is carefully curated sections of cities that they are contained in.

The lack of fatalities seems to be in spite of Waymo, not because of

They constantly need manual corrections by humans remoting in, much like with Tesla. So downvote me all you want, it doesn't change the fact that both companies can't achieve what they claim.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, there are traffic violations, and then there are traffic violations - if there's a dead body at the end, it was the second type.

Neither is desirable, but it would actually be a big win to create a tech system that drives a car that produces fewer fatalities per mile than the average human, regardless of whether or not it generates speeding tickets or other inconveniences.

That's my opinion, anyway. I won't downvote you, I only downvote comments unhelpful to the overall conversation, you're not being unhelpful, I just disagree with you.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

regardless of whether or not it generates speeding tickets or other inconveniences.

Speeding increases the distances needed to stop. That's really important in school zones, where there's kids crossing the street. Not only that, Waymo's cars can't identify school buses that are stopped to pick up and drop off students and tend to drive right past them.

The only reason they haven't killed any kids yet is because they're kept in small areas of cities away from schools. If you don't believe me, here's a video covering it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcq0tjmvGOs

And focusing on developing self-driving cars as robotaxis is silly when there's a way better solution: re-zoning cities to make them more walkable and building more publiv transport. Removing cars from cities is way safer, and reduces issues like congestion and noise pollution.

And then there's the issues of major tech companies trying to build up monopolies and fund fascist takeovers of the government (i.e. Elon Musk and Tesla), but that's tangential to the main argument.

That's my opinion, anyway. I won't downvote you, I only downvote comments unhelpful to the overall conversation, you're not being unhelpful, I just disagree with you.

I know you think you're being polite with this, but you're actually being incredibly condescending here.