This is a community to engage in musical theory and practice. What exactly does that mean?
To that end, this is simply a space for people of varying backgrounds and education to share music and their thoughts about music. Musical study via the history of music is also encouraged.
Rules:
Standard GZD rules apply here
No elitism tolerated. The value of music is ultimately determined by how socially necessary it is, i.e. how much people like it and interact with it.
By the same token, no anti-intellectualism tolerated. Like anything in the world, music is something worthy of study that everyone can always learn more about.
No Eurocentricism tolerated. Western (specifically German) music theory and practice being considered inherently superior to the music of other cultures is reactionary.
Popular or classical, western or non-western, communist or even anti-communist, feel free to mention any and all kinds of music here.
pretty eclectic stuff rn:
note for last item: I'm 95% sure it's ai gen...?? ??? the MV definitely is
to be clear, this isn't really a dig against the track. I enjoy it and I see why it got its time in the viral spotlight. but I wish it was more clear yknow.in my amateur opinion, the voice, probably instruments, and tooling for filling out sounds (for lack of better vocab/jargon) are at the very least ai-assisted. mostly hedging my bets that the voice used is AI -- typically in chinese music industry the vocalist is always credited as the industry is full of songwriters not being the vocalist, etc. And I tried reallly really hard to figure out any credit to a vocalist.... got one name ιηε»· but can't seem to match it to a real person. ANYWAY next biggest tell for me is the uncannily smoothness of the music video and that after playing this, immediately all the next recommended queue on youtube are all explicitly labeled ai gen music, many featuring the same woman's face in the music videos of cover arrangements. context clues but not evidence, I know.
anyway I probably could have figured this out more definitively if I actually looked at douyin myself but I literally can't access full functions of douyin so I'm outta luck there
edit: yay an explainer! youtube comment under the video + translation:
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translation via youtube function/google: We Korean-Chinese people call the Rhododendron indicum the "Azalea." This song was arranged using AI, featuring the voice of a singer who is a member of the Yanbian Korean-Chinese community. The original song is a theme song from a Chinese movie and is a tribute to the Chinese Red Army. The Anti-Japanese Allied Forces in Yanbian waged fierce battles against Japan for 14 years. The majority of them were the people of the present-day Korean-Chinese ethnic group. Bearing the sorrow of their country due to the Eulsa Treaty of 1905 and the Japan-Korea Annexation Treaty of 1910, many people came to the present-day Yanbian region to fight for independence. They fought against Japan alongside our people who had already settled there. That is why there is a saying in Yanbian: "Azaleas on every mountain, monuments to martyrs in every village." The names of tens of thousands of martyrs are inscribed on these monuments in our script. In Yanbian, the azalea is said to be the flower that grows as the blood of tens of thousands of martyrs seeps into the earth. To me, it is a flower that tugs at my heartstrings every time I see it.
very cool smattering, and i really appreciate the explainer too. thanks so much for posting!
Oooh cool, I didn't pay much attention since Simulation Theory since I didn't like it that much, but I'll check it out then!
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