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[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works -2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

draconian authoritarian dipshittery

So long as it is voluntary, I'm alright with it. Let people choose what's best for themselves. If it attempts to get codified into law, that's a different matter.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Is it voluntary? How voluntary? Is it voluntary like, something a random stranger might decide is best for them, or voluntary like someone was raised by an abusive religious family so this seems normal to them despite science proving otherwise? Voluntary like someone convinced them they'd go to eternal damnation if they didn't go along with it?

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Voluntary as in I can choose a different mobile operator.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You can, but can everyone? We're talking about a demographic that only exists because they're hypocrites who enforce their religion of peace through violence at every level of society. I don't care if you think they have a choice because I already know how they feel like they have no other choice at all, because of the forces which shaped their worldview.

There's nothing voluntary about it for the target audience, and that's the only reason it could ever possibly succeed.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

can everyone?

That's a different question with all the laws passed since 9/11 revolving around random people being able to easily get a phone with no ID, no bank account, etc like they are going to the store to get a gallon of milk. The patriot act can die in a fire. If you want to affect change to make smuggling an unrestricted phone to someone in a cult, the patriot act has to go.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No, it's not a different question, it's just looking at the issue from further away than halfway up your nose.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Easy access to other avenues is the first step in digital independence from an authoritarian family. It's the same thing for minors getting access to birth control without ID or parental concent. So long as you gotta have a bank account and show ID to buy a phone, this is going to be a problem.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, so why are you defending the avenue that suckers in people afraid of hellfire and tells them all the others are satanic?

You have no point, nothing of value to say. You just keep circling back to defending this christofascist bullshit. This conversation is over.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

I'm not defending it, it is just the reality we face for freedom. It is just their mentality and how they see things vs how the next person sees it or you see it or how I see it. I'm not your enemy here.