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[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

I would say let’s maybe not have car parks at all? They suck. We should as a species try to phase out personal cars, first of all. And secondly, until then, underground garages are infinitely better for everyone else.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 32 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

OK, so in 100 years you get your wish and personal cars no longer exist. For the next 100 years, would you like to:

  1. put solar panels on top of car parks; or
  2. not do that?

In addition, after 100 years on top of the car parks that still exist (perhaps for the shared cars), would you like to:

  1. have solar panels on top of them; or
  2. not have them?
[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

How about we get that wish in, say, 10 or 20 years instead of your strawman scenario? Transforming cities to be walkable/bikable does not take that long, if you're serious about it.

[–] radiowaffle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

It's not a matter of who's serious or not, it's a matter of what is more attainable right now. Small steps are more achievable than massive ones. Public transportation and walkable cities are already a topic that capitalism has been fighting forever, and the amount of infrastructure that would need to change is massive. It would interrupt daily lives, close roads, probably close businesses at LEAST temporarily, and while those of us who support it would understand it's a means to an end, there is absolutely no way to get everyone on board right now. We DO have car parks right now, on private property where the companies that own them likely have the cash to spare for contractors to build solar panels. We'd have some areas of parking lots coned off while they build, and it would be a huge improvement that will be much easier to attain than the kind of overhaul needed to transform cities.

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