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[–] ignirtoq@feddit.online 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Two weeks ago, we wrote about Palantir going mask-off for fascism, specifically about CEO Alex Karp’s company posting a 22-point manifesto that included some genuinely ugly stuff about how “certain cultures” are “regressive and harmful” and how pluralism is a “shallow temptation.” I argued that this kind of public ideological positioning was both morally bankrupt and strategically suicidal. The moral bankruptcy part should be obvious (if it’s not, go do some soul-searching). But doing so at a time when American-style fascism is historically unpopular basically everywhere, including within the US, just seems like you’ve bet on the losing team at a time when it’s clear they have no chance of coming back to win.

I keep seeing this logic that:

  1. If a movement is unpopular it will fail in short order
  2. In the US, the current fascist movement is unpopular
  3. Therefore it will fail soon

That may be true of a lot of movements, but fascism doesn't work like that. They don't need popularity, they just need control over the levers of power. The Heritage Foundation and many, many other conservative groups have been working for decades, some since the 1950s, to seize control of those levers of power.

Palantir aligning with this fascism is not nearly the clearly failing strategy the author believes it to be. There's a very real chance they are successful for years or even decades aligning with the current fascist regime. It has a lot of momentum, and I haven't seen good evidence that that momentum is reliably ebbing. It's seeing speed bumps, but I haven't seen any kind of turning point. I really hope the midterm elections are that turning point. Either conservatives lose Congress or the public realizes they can't stop it by working within the system anymore.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 5 hours ago

The "opposition" party are certainly doing their part. They oppose doing anything remotely meaningful turn away from genocide and genocide/colonizer money to actually govern for the good of their citizens of their state, and other states.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Authoritarian regimes need to.care about popular opinion too. Sure, unlike a democracy they can survive going under 50% approval for longer but if Anger boils over it gets ugly.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Yes, but on average what is the minimum percentage of support needed for an authoritarian regime to remain in power? 30%, 20%, 10%, 5%? Currently, less than 30% of Americans seem to support MAGA. Will that be enough to break this tyrannical trend?

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And that anger is potentially going to boil over soon.

Trump's well know for being a pedophile, gas has gotten ridiculously expensive (and so has everything else), and he's ruined the American economy. Few people are willing to go to bat for the Republicans right now

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

But wait! Look over there!

[–] ignirtoq@feddit.online 8 points 1 day ago

Wholeheartedly agree. The point I'm more trying to make is that they can survive much longer without popular support than other kinds of movements. So Palantir can be very successful for a long time aligning with the regime, even if it will ultimately fall. They can (and probably plan to) jump ship before that fall, like German companies that aided the Nazis did after WWII.