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[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I appreciated the sentiment, but here's my counterpoint: Peter Thiel, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Alex Karp, Jensen Huang, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, etc. That's only one industry and is nevertheless incomplete, but if I kept going it would take too long.

[–] YoFrodo@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As long as the death penalty exists it will be used against an innocent, as it already has and will continue to do.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As long as there is even a MICROSCOPIC chance of executing someone innocent, it should NEVER be used. And since there’s no way to ensure there is NO CHANCE someone innocent is executed, it should be abolished.

also, fwiw, i don't think killing someone is the right way to show that killing people (among other things) is wrong. it's pretty contradictory.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Justice demands it. As a compromise, we could do it as a special military tribunal a la Nuremberg rather than having it be the regular law of the land

[–] YoFrodo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Any death penalty will create wrongful executions. It simply can never be perfect. How many innocent people is it acceptable to execute as long as we also execute guilty people?

To me that is none.

Any death penalty also means that there is an incredibly high level of trust in the government to be accurate and thorough and not corrupt. In the US thats the same government that allows the Epstein class to walk free right now. You trust them to wield death penalty?

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't think they executed any innocent people at Nuremburg. This isn't like the death penalty for a given crime like murder, where you can get the wrong guy. We know exactly who they are, there's no ambiguity or any need for an investigation to find the guilty party.

This would not be the Epstein government doing the executions, in this scenario they would be the ones being executed

[–] YoFrodo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

and yet the death penalty that exists today and is used today HAS killed innocent people. You know how we can prevent that? stop executing people.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago

Sure, but before that we got some stuff to take care of

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Stealing billions is stealing hundreds and thousands of lifetimes of work from society. When crimes are at that scale they should receive the kind of attention that ensures 100%, that the accused will receive a punishment equal to the lives they have destroyed through greed.