this post was submitted on 28 Apr 2026
27 points (100.0% liked)

Buy European

10300 readers
140 users here now

Overview:

The community to discuss buying European goods and services.


Matrix Chat of this community


Rules:

  • Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. No direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments.

  • Do not use this community to promote Nationalism/Euronationalism. This community is for discussing European products/services and news related to that. For other topics the following might be of interest:

  • Include a disclaimer at the bottom of the post if you're affiliated with the recommendation.

  • No russian suggestions.

Feddit.uk's instance rules apply:

  • No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia or xenophobia.
  • No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies.
  • No harassment, dogpiling or doxxing of other users.
  • Do not share intentionally false or misleading information.
  • Do not spam or abuse network features.
  • Alt accounts are permitted, but all accounts must list each other in their bios.
  • No generative AI content.

Useful Websites

Benefits of Buying Local:

local investment, job creation, innovation, increased competition, more redundancy.

European Instances

Lemmy:

Friendica:

Matrix:


Related Communities:

Buy Local:

Continents:

European:

Buying and Selling:

Boycott:

Countries:

Companies:

Stop Publisher Kill Switch in Games Practice:


Banner credits: BYTEAlliance


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Few weeks ago I saw that DeepL is moving to AWS. Is there any full European product with app for ios?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, we should agree on a definition, o maybe better a categorization, of what it means to "be European". At the end of the day we're talking about a service where the employees, the know-how, the headquarters are solidly European. But you don't like their hosting provider.

I guess you could use Mistral and live with the risk of hallucinations... but hey, I think they are hosted by cloudflare.

Or you could look for some fully local, open source translator, if you can find it. I have one for Android, that uses the Firefox translation models (a.k.a. project Bergamot, which was an EU funded research project).

Even LibreTranslate is written by an Italian, but he lives in Florida now.

Maybe Yandex Translate?

[โ€“] Kkk2237pl@szmer.info 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think we will never have such definition. Its similar to companies, which one is true European? That which pay taxes and has hq? Or has most of stock in european hands. Lets take Adidas, hq in europe but still imports clothes from third world countries.

I just asked for alternatives. Imo there is no reason for deepl to move to AWS, maybe Aws had better sales people?

I will just stick to argos / libre translate self hosted.

[โ€“] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The switch of DeepL to AWS is puzzling for me as well, and if it's not done sufficiently carefully it can prove to be a fatal mistake.

But if they don't lock themselves in, it can allow them to dramatically expand geographically, and to ensure availability in the presence of sudden spikes in usage, without having to massively invest in their own infrastructure.

[โ€“] Kkk2237pl@szmer.info 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ovh has infrastructure in many regions. I still think that aws just have good salesperson ;) I took part in some workshops with guys from one US cloud, so I know what its likeโ€ฆ

https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/about-us/global-infrastructure/regions/

[โ€“] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Does OVH offer the same degree of demand elasticity? It's an honest question. I know that's something that many AWS users value a lot.

On the other hand, paraphrasing, noone ever got fired for buying AWS.