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Which open models are actually good at agentic coding? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by hok@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/localllama@sh.itjust.works

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Are there any open models that can actually compete with proprietary ones like GPT 5.5 Extended Thinking or Claude Opus 4.7? I am getting really good results with those in their chat interfaces for coding tasks. They sometimes spend 30-45 minutes working on my task and have an internal container they are doing tool calls on, like cloning a repository and compiling their code, and can find online documentation. Their answers are very good and usually correct for very complex tasks requiring specific protocols.

So I would like to know how well we can replicate this using open models since I want more control over how it runs, and privacy. Do any of you hook in agentic capabilities into your local models? How do you do it, and which models give you good results?

Pretend I have unlimited resources (local llama.cpp, sufficient fast storage/memory, and unlimited time to wait for a good response).

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[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd also love to know but I suspect none are quite there yet.

[–] Quexotic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's my problem. None are there yet, at least with my hardware.

If you've got 20 grand to spend, there's a couple of models out there, like the one mentioned above that should do fine.

[–] hok@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What I have yet to learn is how much of the intelligence and accuracy comes from the model itself and how much comes from the agentic tool system. For example, my experience with ChatGPT probably would be much worse with the free version (no thinking or container).

[–] Quexotic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'd say it's 60-40 or 40-60. Both are important and have a large bearing on your results, but 128B and 8B will always have a big difference in reasoning capacity