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Hello, I just wanted to ask what us communists should think of gun rights, both under capitalism and socialism. Is it a important part of the movement today, why or why not? Tell me what you think of guns and what must happen with them?

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[–] mao_dun@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I think questioning <individual gun ownership/rights> in, say, China is similar if not on par with the average Chinese person (who doesn't think too hard politically or know much about the system/current conditions of USA) being confounded about why Americans have 2nd amendment, are currently miserable, yet aren't rioting at all times with said access to guns. It's almost analogous to free speech, rights in general... individualism doesn't actually factor that much into the fundamentals to basic quality of life, but it sure can give you the illusion of agency. Sure is nice to have free speech or access to guns if you can't meaningfully contribute or affect the political system since you're not the bourgeoisie - on that front, living under a dotp as a proletarian it comes down to actual access to political mechanisms, real democracy or whatever, real power instead of "rights" as some cover of "you don't actually have to exchange allll your freedoms in exchange for protections and amenities from the state“.


The main struggle on the progress of history today is imperialism, and individuals being able to access guns is blades of grass compared to countries and groups on the front lines of the struggle being able to access defense and weaponry, and more importantly, related tech. The present conditions in "hyper" capitalist imperial core such as the US, the needs to organizing are primarily at a more basic level of gaining mass support, and imo thinking about gun rights for individuals, towards the goal of acquiring arms for organized purposes, is "jumping the gun" (pun intended) if not outright just doesn't make sense on the liberal playing field of "rights", legality within a dotb system. (That said socialist rifle groups aren't a bad thing, "leftists" learning gun safety etc is good overall. But I think it's useful to not come in with any "oooohh gonna use my 2nd amendment rights to resist tyrannical government" stupidity, and yes, I fully think it's stupid, easiest way to end your run, etc.) On that front of imperialism being the major historical conflict right now, groups in the imperial core doing what they can to block weapons shipments to Israel > any group playing at organizing a heavily unsupported domestic inssurection IMO.

On the end of being used to remove ... this is generally useless to altering systems, Shinzo Abe being somewhat of an exception in terms of direct effects (didn't remove the LDP not even close but did clear house of unification church cult??) although presently fascism is reinvigorated in Japan so,,, ehh (oh, and also illustrates clearly, gun rights/control posing no real barrier to determined individuals self-manufacturing doohickeys)