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Framework founder says that ‘personal computing as we know it is dead’ — vows to keep building ‘computers that you can own at the deepest level’ (www.tomshardware.com)

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[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Strictly limited to MacOS, no Linux no nothing.

You can run Linux on the ARM MacBooks.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No you can't, not any Linux. Just a single one, Asahi Linux and that only on M1 and M2 nothing newer and that is not a flawless experience either and recommended only for those understanding the limitations.

But I wasn't even talking about other MacBooks, I was talking about the Apple Neo and there not even Asahi Linux runs, at least I am not aware of any fork that would work. Correct me please if you know more.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I did some googling and it seems you are right, at least for now. I expect Linux support for ARM macs will continue to expand.

As far as I can tell it’s a limitation if moving from the more popular x86 to ARM with some other hardware related caveats. Importantly, the macs are aren’t locked from booting other OSes, its just the hardware support hasn’t caught up yet.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 1 points 4 days ago

Indeed, they aren't locked, which is good. However, Apple does also nothing to document a lot of things for 3rd parties which makes it very difficult for them and requires them to do a lot of reverse engineering. Asahi is a great project but progress has been slow, not due to Asahi's fault mind you. So we still have no M3 support and Apple is already moving to the M5.

So saying "hardware support hasn't caught up yet" is putting it a bit mildly. Apple makes it as hard as it can for that to catch on, stopping short of locking it down. But not locking it down is already something and it enabled Asahi in the first place.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not on M3 and newer. That means everything released in the last 2-3 years

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago

There’s nothing magic about the M3 and newer machines stopping you from running Linux on them.

Asahi already has some early support for them.

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Apple-M3-Asahi-Linux-2026