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Everyone should just give up on america at this point. Its a rotten place that wont reform for the good. Its people are so docile that they wont do anything unless you turn off their porn. Ameircans found out about epstein class and did nothing about it. Their protests are just peaceful parades that dont do anything. Theyre general strikes are just 1 hour long. Its a horrible country which daily terrorizes other countries for fun and its population is so depressed that they dont give a shit about any of that and they dont even care whats happening to each other and they dont care if pedophiles are ruling over them, they dont care about being lied to since they where born, theyd rather go to brunch or just watch some netflix garbage. Maybe im being pessimistic, but idk i think im being realistic and i feel justifies having this kind of attitude towards the empire and the people who live in it.

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[–] cenarius@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

That would be the economic system that allows western workers to live entirely off an elevated position in the global economy that doesn't line up with the minimal production they physically control, it's all financialized and the workers arw as much cushioning as the asset market itself, lending their consumer demand to the pressure on global south countries, it's like a magnet that keeps them in the dollar system.

This means that demands for healthcare, welfare, better working conditions, minimum wage etc. it all stabilizes the system of extraction US workers are a part of. Pointing the finger at their leaders' corruption helps them ignore what a "successful + smooth" administration actually means & why Bernie SSandlers etcetera fundamentally have the same economic plan as Trump/Bush/Reagan etc

Note that this isn't a moral framing saying that American workers don't deserve this stuff, I'm not even getting into that. What I'm saying is that if Americans think that they can keep asking for it from their leadership, they're ignoring that what they have to offer is not even something with the great deal of longevity in this world. It's not just that the USSR scared them enough to start applying welfare policies and stuff like that. It's that the elevated cost of living literally makes competitive industry in the United States and the rest of the first world impossible without the assistance of these private banks who manage the global trade system (quite violently)

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Leadership is empowered by the people. Eliminate the people that support such leadership and support such industry from the bottom up, erode their support base. We’ve already seen with Brian and Charlie that attacking power and influence does nothing, it just plugs a new seat-warmer into the system or uses martyrdom to catapult its agenda to the next level. You can gather as many people together as you like to “demand” whatever it is that you want, but without the resolve to force the issue should the demand be ignored, demands mean nothing. You’re not just up against the wealth class, you’re up against an entitled middle class that has “enough” and will empower a wealth class to do the dirty work of suppressing upward mobility for anyone else. There’s people who would be unable to survive without our meager social supports that will empower people who promise to rip away social supports. Whether they think they’ll be the exception to that rule or are willing to ruin themselves just to ruin someone else… who knows.

The working class does not unite because it there is a culture of bigotry deeply embedded in the social culture. Some of it is manipulated by leaders to secure their ascension, sometimes they play toss the scraps and let us squabble while they play the party power trade game while having no intention of bringing any real change to the system. No amount of talk, no amount of economic or political change is going to amount to anything if the people seeking change don’t address the root of the problem- the fascist loving bigots in their neighborhood. Allow that to continue and America’s culture of hate might get defeated short term, but just like Reconciliation, it’ll fester, plot, scheme, strategize, divert, create loopholes, exploit, and even if it takes 150yrs, it’ll resurface as the same old hate in a new hat.

[–] cenarius@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Brian and Charlie?? Explain and I'll get thru rest

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Brian Thompson, healthcare CEO shot and killed 12/24, replaced by another of the same cloth a month later. Charlie Kirk, conservative Internet personality shot and killed 09/25, had a WWE pay-per-view grade memorial service the same month and is now the next generation Confederate war memorial with statues, roads, and textbooks rewriting his myth. Plus he got replaced by what is arguably a more intelligent and dangerous demagogue than he himself ever was.

[–] cenarius@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 days ago

Okay, well to go back over this, I think you have something backwards about how to attack reactionary thought. Imperial financial system's not simply an ideological project that people uphold due to bigotry. It's more like short-sighted gambling addiction + self-interest. Attacking the ideology by showing people the harm they cause won't cure them. White supremacy is malleable, it comes in many forms, & similar structures are created wherever capital needs to make minor concessions to minority groups to keep Eurocentrism intact as a mosaic, e.g. Ukrainian supremacy, Jewish supremacy, Japanese + Taiwanese + R.o.K. nationalism, Indonesia's Islamic conservatives, ISIS + Gulf state monarchies' fundamentalism fused with libertarianism.

This is why I see generalizations made to western workers about how "communism can improve living conditions [for them]" as potentially harmful. They read this backwards to mean "communism = welfare policies for me before global economic restructuring"—the climate is collapsing bruh. Don't lie to these people, their lifestyle, chiefly its attachment to a parasitic economic system (not just their behaviors & consumption habits, the waste underlying it) needs to change before they can get the goods.